Tesla losing market share to Ford
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The new electric Mustang is eating into Tesla’s market share.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/04/business/ford-mustang-mach-e-tesla-market-share/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/04/business/ford-mustang-mach-e-tesla-market-share/index.html
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Oh, so you are in favor of restoring California’s right to control its own emissions standards then?! Good to know! 🤔
Worked out really well in TX for electricity too! 👍
You do realize Texas had a snow storm, which nobody would have had the foresight to prepare for. How often does Texas see those kind of temps. So much for global warming. -
Oh, so you are in favor of restoring California’s right to control its own emissions standards then?! Good to know! 🤔
Worked out really well in TX for electricity too! 👍
You do realize Texas had a snow storm, which nobody would have had the foresight to prepare for. How often does Texas see those kind of temps. So much for global warming.
Texas is not the only state with deregulated power. California is one of the few states that have no choice at all.2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
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Please don’t confuse weather with climate. A snowstorm is weather.
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Oh, so you are in favor of restoring California’s right to control its own emissions standards then?! Good to know! 🤔
Worked out really well in TX for electricity too! 👍
You do realize Texas had a snow storm, which nobody would have had the foresight to prepare for. How often does Texas see those kind of temps. So much for global warming.
The global warming label didn't fly, so they changed it to climate change. Well, of course there's climate change, it's been changing since day one...duh!
Unfortunately, there's far too many that swallowed the current BS hook, line and sinker believing it is something new. In part, I blame the public education system with the rest of the blame on special interest groups that stand to profit off the ignorance of the sheep.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Please don’t confuse weather with climate. A snowstorm is weather.
So is a hurricane, and an F5 tornado...
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True. I’m outta here, for now.
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anonymouse wrote: »The good news is we are on track to EVs. GM has fully committed, and most others have too. Those that do not, soon will. Probably will not affect you climate deniers on this thread as you drive your ICE vehicles to your graves. So good on you. Your kids will buy EVs - they will not have a choice. Thanks to people smarter and more educated on what is good for our planet. Have a great day
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There are also a lot of educated people on the other side of this that don't agree with the narrative, but they don't get government money. -
anonymouse wrote: »The good news is we are on track to EVs. GM has fully committed, and most others have too. Those that do not, soon will. Probably will not affect you climate deniers on this thread as you drive your ICE vehicles to your graves. So good on you. Your kids will buy EVs - they will not have a choice. Thanks to people smarter and more educated on what is good for our planet. Have a great day[/quote
There are also a lot of educated people on the other side of this that don't agree with the narrative, but they don't get government money.
It’s tax payers money
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Go to bed.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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In before this get's a lock too...
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anonymouse wrote: »The good news is we are on track to EVs. GM has fully committed, and most others have too. Those that do not, soon will. Probably will not affect you climate deniers on this thread as you drive your ICE vehicles to your graves. So good on you. Your kids will buy EVs - they will not have a choice. Thanks to people smarter and more educated on what is good for our planet. Have a great day
And the veil is lifted, and the true intent revealed. The statement above perfectly demonstrates what’s wrong with our society.
There are, for the most part, two halves to our country. There’s the half that is all about live and let live - we believe that if you want to drive an EV, go ahead - more power to you (just don’t expect us to subsidize your choice). You don’t want to eat meat, no problem - don’t eat meat. You are offended by Dr Seuss, no problem - don’t buy or read the books. You want to wear a mask because it makes you feel safer, go ahead - wear a mask. See? Live and let live.
But then there is the other half of the country. They want to not only make their own choices, they want to make yours too. Not only do they want to drive an EV, the demand that you do as well. You want to eat meat? Nope - they want to prevent everyone from eating meat. They are offended by Dr Seuss, but it’s not enough for them to abstain from reading the books - they demand that the books not only cease production, but further they want to ensure that they are not even sold. And masks? Yea, we already know how that story plays out.
This is the fundamental divide that manifests itself in so many areas, and it’s getting worse by the day."Conservative Libertarians love the country, progressive leftists love the government." - Andrew Wilkow
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Cheers Bud! 🥂Those must be small wine glasses. I only get two and a half glasses from a bottle of wine.
I don’t think we’re using the same glasses! 😂
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Yikes! 😳
That’s a terrible wine glass, Bud! You’re really missing out using that. 😱Alea jacta est! -
I don't think so. I got tired of traditional, unstable wine glasses. They are too easy to accidentally knock over. This glass works fine, the wine breathes, and tastes excellent. In fact, I think I will have a glass now. Cheers.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Look at Bud, drinking outside the box.
Political Correctness'.........defined
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Sal Palooza
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I've noticed, with some amusement, the trend in recent years towards stemless wine glasses -- which I presume allow oenophiles to get incrementally more hammered without fear of breaking their stemware (which might curtail their quaffing).
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somethings going to change.
I just don't know that is going to be EV.
I don't hate the idea. But the tech used to support it is awful.
A better battery is needed. Current battery choices are
as dirty as it gets. Instead of constant emissions, it's all bad
at the beginning and end of the battery's life.
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sucks2beme wrote: »somethings going to change.
I just don't know that is going to be EV.
I don't hate the idea. But the tech used to support it is awful.
A better battery is needed. Current battery choices are
as dirty as it gets. Instead of constant emissions, it's all bad
at the beginning and end of the battery's life.
Yeah and what is the so called "carbon footprint" of that vehicle over its lifetime? How many battery changes will have to be made and what is the ecological impact of manufacturing and disposing of those? Most people also ignore the fact that most of our electricity production in this country is still very dirty and inefficient.George / NJ
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mrbigbluelight wrote: »"Quaffing" ?!?!
Can you say that on here ? 😳
I ain't seein' no Vanilla-nanny asterisks.
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True about US electricity production and how it relates potentially to EVs. Norway made a committment back well before the 1960s to move to take advantage of their geography to produce abundant hydroelectric power. Today they essentially have free access to electricity with 95 to 98 percent of it coming from hydroelectric facilities. At the time Norway was a relatively poor agricultural and fishing dominated country. Oil and gas wealth came after the hydroelectric power decisions were made. Norway's government is essentially incentivizing moving to EVs as an econonic policy through tax policies. They sell the oil and gas because they don't need as much of it anymore. They also don't produce vehicles so the environmental impact of vehicle and battery production is not borne in Norway.
Norway is similar in population size to South Carolina but most electricity in South Carolina comes from nuclear power and a small amount of hydroelectric. I think the dams in southern states are more more for flood control because of tropical storms and electricity is a side benefit. -
I am not sure we'll ever get an electrochemical cell that is safe, stable, and affords the kind of energy density that is required in a self-propelled vehicle. Gasoline is really good in these respects (even in terms of safety and stability -- as it is all relative).
I think (FWIW, and as others have also opined), like it or not, the future will feature platooned, intelligent, "on demand" EVs that one summons and they come and take you where you want to go, when you want to go. They'll manage themselves intelligently, getting charged when they need to get charged (sort of like takin' a nap on the job).
The alternative would be standardized battery packs that can be quickly swapped in and out at a service station (you know, by guys wearin' pinstripe coveralls and bow ties).
It just doesn't make a lot of sense, at any level, for most (!!!) people to take on the expense, and risk, of buying, operating, and maintaining a vehicle that spends most of its existince sitting in a garage or a parking lot.
Of course (!!!!) some folks will need a powerful, dependable vehicle -- contractors, ranchers, e.g. The hordes of office and service economy workers... just... don't. Objectively speaking.
And, yeah, I/we own two cars, both resolutely I/C, too -- but I think that the allure of owning any sort of vehicle will die with the Boomer generation.
"The change of the guard".
https://youtu.be/zL-4CH0eJBc
(great song, with a typically great guitar solo in the middle of it, too)
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The devil's in the details. Pointing out facts is not equivalent to being a luddite.George / NJ
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