Time to replace my CD player
Easy Runnin
Posts: 501
Time to replace my CD player. I’ve been using a NAD545. Although this units has had its issues, I liked the sound. It started skipping, I replaced the laser, it worked for awhile, now it’s skipping again. Time to upgrade.
I like what I’ve read about the Marantz CD6007 but can’t find one. I have a few CD players laying around, some with digital outs, but they all seem weak compared to the NAD. I’ve ripped quite a few CDs but I like having the physical media. I do not own an external DAC.
Do you thing something like an older Sony BDP S590 through a Cambridge CXN V2 would sound good? Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
I like what I’ve read about the Marantz CD6007 but can’t find one. I have a few CD players laying around, some with digital outs, but they all seem weak compared to the NAD. I’ve ripped quite a few CDs but I like having the physical media. I do not own an external DAC.
Do you thing something like an older Sony BDP S590 through a Cambridge CXN V2 would sound good? Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
HT- Samsung PN50B860/Integra DTR 30.3/Rt55 Fronts
Rt35i Surrounds/Cs1000p Center/SVS BP1000 Sub
2CH - B&K MC-101 pre/B&K EX-442 amp/NAD 2400 amp
Polk SDA1C, Polk Monitor 7, New Large Advents and Polk RTA 8T
BR - Yamaha CR800/Polk monitor 5
Rt35i Surrounds/Cs1000p Center/SVS BP1000 Sub
2CH - B&K MC-101 pre/B&K EX-442 amp/NAD 2400 amp
Polk SDA1C, Polk Monitor 7, New Large Advents and Polk RTA 8T
BR - Yamaha CR800/Polk monitor 5
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What’s ur budget?Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
A grand or less.HT- Samsung PN50B860/Integra DTR 30.3/Rt55 Fronts
Rt35i Surrounds/Cs1000p Center/SVS BP1000 Sub
2CH - B&K MC-101 pre/B&K EX-442 amp/NAD 2400 amp
Polk SDA1C, Polk Monitor 7, New Large Advents and Polk RTA 8T
BR - Yamaha CR800/Polk monitor 5 -
Well gosh, if that's your budget, and you liked the NAD so much, why not just get [THIS C568] from Safe and Sound HQ?!Alea jacta est!
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I was considering that, but thought maybe something like a CXN and cheaper transport might be the way to go. That would give me streaming , a dac and cd playback.
HT- Samsung PN50B860/Integra DTR 30.3/Rt55 Fronts
Rt35i Surrounds/Cs1000p Center/SVS BP1000 Sub
2CH - B&K MC-101 pre/B&K EX-442 amp/NAD 2400 amp
Polk SDA1C, Polk Monitor 7, New Large Advents and Polk RTA 8T
BR - Yamaha CR800/Polk monitor 5 -
Not to get all... the way I get ... but are you sure the optics are clean and the tracks that the head moves on are clean and properly lubricated, @Easy Runnin ?
Otherwise, my advice (FWIW, which I realize ain't much!) is use whatever transport you want (and I mean whatever)... and pair it with a good DAC.
So many good DACs today, at any price point.
BDA-1 plus DVD-1730 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
With an enduring note of thanks to @BlueFox
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Easy Runnin wrote: »A grand or less.
I imagine the CXC will remain in my system longer than my CXN, and I'm in no rush to push the CXN out.Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
MastersounD Dueventi > Rosso Fiorentino Certaldo or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
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mhardy6647 wrote: »my advice is use whatever transport you want (and I mean whatever)... and pair it with a good DAC.
So many good DACs today, at any price point.
^^^ THIS ^^^
however, IMHO A well-built transport has it’s merits. I rolled PS Audio PerfectWave transport to replace my Oppo 105 and it made a big (Mo Betta) SQ difference/ImprovementAC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
Pre Cary SLP-05
Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
Mains Salk HT2-TL
Rythmik F12 -
mhardy6647 wrote: »my advice is use whatever transport you want (and I mean whatever)... and pair it with a good DAC.
So many good DACs today, at any price point.
^^^ THIS ^^^
however, IMHO A well-built transport has it’s merits. I rolled PS Audio PerfectWave transport to replace my Oppo 105 and it made a big (Mo Betta) SQ difference/Improvement
Actually (and I probably should've at least mentioned this), I don't disagree! To wit, I was using a fairly nice Marantz CDP for a long time... but it (ahem) started to skip sometimes playing the "last" tracks on CDs (the outermost data tracks on a CD) and I began evaluating others in the "collection", using the pictured Bryston DAC.
That crummy, cheap Denon DVDP (a dump find) sounded better than the Marantz, with both used (only) as transports. I cannot rationalize that, but it was what I "heard". Go figure.
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mhardy6647 wrote: »mhardy6647 wrote: »my advice is use whatever transport you want (and I mean whatever)... and pair it with a good DAC.
So many good DACs today, at any price point.
^^^ THIS ^^^
however, IMHO A well-built transport has it’s merits. I rolled PS Audio PerfectWave transport to replace my Oppo 105 and it made a big (Mo Betta) SQ difference/Improvement
Actually (and I probably should've at least mentioned this), I don't disagree! To wit, I was using a fairly nice Marantz CDP for a long time... but it (ahem) started to skip sometimes playing the "last" tracks on CDs (the outermost data tracks on a CD) and I began evaluating others in the "collection", using the pictured Bryston DAC.
That crummy, cheap Denon DVDP (a dump find) sounded better than the Marantz, with both used (only) as transports. I cannot rationalize that, but it was what I "heard". Go figure.
So you're saying you heard a difference in transports? YIKES
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motorstereo wrote: »mhardy6647 wrote: »mhardy6647 wrote: »my advice is use whatever transport you want (and I mean whatever)... and pair it with a good DAC.
So many good DACs today, at any price point.
^^^ THIS ^^^
however, IMHO A well-built transport has it’s merits. I rolled PS Audio PerfectWave transport to replace my Oppo 105 and it made a big (Mo Betta) SQ difference/Improvement
Actually (and I probably should've at least mentioned this), I don't disagree! To wit, I was using a fairly nice Marantz CDP for a long time... but it (ahem) started to skip sometimes playing the "last" tracks on CDs (the outermost data tracks on a CD) and I began evaluating others in the "collection", using the pictured Bryston DAC.
That crummy, cheap Denon DVDP (a dump find) sounded better than the Marantz, with both used (only) as transports. I cannot rationalize that, but it was what I "heard". Go figure.
So you're saying you heard a difference in transports? YIKES
yup.
Don't tell ASR
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mhardy6647 wrote: »motorstereo wrote: »mhardy6647 wrote: »mhardy6647 wrote: »my advice is use whatever transport you want (and I mean whatever)... and pair it with a good DAC.
So many good DACs today, at any price point.
^^^ THIS ^^^
however, IMHO A well-built transport has it’s merits. I rolled PS Audio PerfectWave transport to replace my Oppo 105 and it made a big (Mo Betta) SQ difference/Improvement
Actually (and I probably should've at least mentioned this), I don't disagree! To wit, I was using a fairly nice Marantz CDP for a long time... but it (ahem) started to skip sometimes playing the "last" tracks on CDs (the outermost data tracks on a CD) and I began evaluating others in the "collection", using the pictured Bryston DAC.
That crummy, cheap Denon DVDP (a dump find) sounded better than the Marantz, with both used (only) as transports. I cannot rationalize that, but it was what I "heard". Go figure.
So you're saying you heard a difference in transports? YIKES
yup.
Don't tell ASR
The horrors......I don't know what to expect next.......sonic differences in wiring? -
motorstereo wrote: »mhardy6647 wrote: »motorstereo wrote: »mhardy6647 wrote: »mhardy6647 wrote: »my advice is use whatever transport you want (and I mean whatever)... and pair it with a good DAC.
So many good DACs today, at any price point.
^^^ THIS ^^^
however, IMHO A well-built transport has it’s merits. I rolled PS Audio PerfectWave transport to replace my Oppo 105 and it made a big (Mo Betta) SQ difference/Improvement
Actually (and I probably should've at least mentioned this), I don't disagree! To wit, I was using a fairly nice Marantz CDP for a long time... but it (ahem) started to skip sometimes playing the "last" tracks on CDs (the outermost data tracks on a CD) and I began evaluating others in the "collection", using the pictured Bryston DAC.
That crummy, cheap Denon DVDP (a dump find) sounded better than the Marantz, with both used (only) as transports. I cannot rationalize that, but it was what I "heard". Go figure.
So you're saying you heard a difference in transports? YIKES
yup.
Don't tell ASR
The horrors......I don't know what to expect next.......sonic differences in wiring?
I've found that virtually all hifi components sound better with wires than without.
... but I digress.
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Maybe you just need a good repair shop, like this one in Egypt.
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Easy Runnin wrote: »I was considering that, but thought maybe something like a CXN and cheaper transport might be the way to go. That would give me streaming , a dac and cd playback.
That is a good idea, if streaming will be your primary way of listening. But if CDs are still primary, I would go this route. I owned this and it’s an excellent stand alone DAC and CD player:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cambridge-Audio-851C-CD-Player-DAC-Preamplifier/324507988803?hash=item4b8e2ef343:g:spkAAOSwUwRgQmdH
Then add a squeezebox touch or even a chromecast audio (I actually have one lying around I would be willing to sell you). You have both streaming and a really good CD player.Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
KennethSwauger wrote: »Maybe you just need a good repair shop, like this one in Egypt.
It's... it's... it's where all of the remote controls go!!!
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For all I know he might have fixed King Tut's VCR way back when.
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That is a good idea, if streaming will be your primary way of listening. But if CDs are still primary, I would go this route. I owned this and it’s an excellent stand alone DAC and CD player:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cambridge-Audio-851C-CD-Player-DAC-Preamplifier/324507988803?hash=item4b8e2ef343:g:spkAAOSwUwRgQmdH
Ooo! That looks like it would have worked. I got an itchy finger and grabbed one of the refurbished 851Ns off eBay. I’m going to use a Pioneer DV45A as a transport for the time being.
HT- Samsung PN50B860/Integra DTR 30.3/Rt55 Fronts
Rt35i Surrounds/Cs1000p Center/SVS BP1000 Sub
2CH - B&K MC-101 pre/B&K EX-442 amp/NAD 2400 amp
Polk SDA1C, Polk Monitor 7, New Large Advents and Polk RTA 8T
BR - Yamaha CR800/Polk monitor 5 -
Easy Runnin wrote: »That is a good idea, if streaming will be your primary way of listening. But if CDs are still primary, I would go this route. I owned this and it’s an excellent stand alone DAC and CD player:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cambridge-Audio-851C-CD-Player-DAC-Preamplifier/324507988803?hash=item4b8e2ef343:g:spkAAOSwUwRgQmdH
Ooo! That looks like it would have worked. I got an itchy finger and grabbed one of the refurbished 851Ns off eBay. I’m going to use a Pioneer DV45A as a transport for the time being.
You’ll love it! Basically the same thing except you get a really good streamer instead of a certain player...Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
Easy Runnin wrote: »That is a good idea, if streaming will be your primary way of listening. But if CDs are still primary, I would go this route. I owned this and it’s an excellent stand alone DAC and CD player:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cambridge-Audio-851C-CD-Player-DAC-Preamplifier/324507988803?hash=item4b8e2ef343:g:spkAAOSwUwRgQmdH
Ooo! That looks like it would have worked. I got an itchy finger and grabbed one of the refurbished 851Ns off eBay. I’m going to use a Pioneer DV45A as a transport for the time being.
Sorry for chiming in so late. Did your ebay plan work out??
I'm currently running the "coveted" Emotiva ERC-3 which actually is a great CD player using balanced interconnects. I did some "listening" comparisons with my Panasonic 9000 which also has balanced connectivity and the ERC-3 offered a slightly wider stage. It was very close, both are great listening CD spinners. Of course the Emo comes in at almost half the price of the Panni.Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman -
Easy Runnin wrote: »That is a good idea, if streaming will be your primary way of listening. But if CDs are still primary, I would go this route. I owned this and it’s an excellent stand alone DAC and CD player:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cambridge-Audio-851C-CD-Player-DAC-Preamplifier/324507988803?hash=item4b8e2ef343:g:spkAAOSwUwRgQmdH
Ooo! That looks like it would have worked. I got an itchy finger and grabbed one of the refurbished 851Ns off eBay. I’m going to use a Pioneer DV45A as a transport for the time being.
Sorry for chiming in so late. Did your ebay plan work out??
I'm currently running the "coveted" Emotiva ERC-3 which actually is a great CD player using balanced interconnects. I did some "listening" comparisons with my Panasonic 9000 which also has balanced connectivity and the ERC-3 offered a slightly wider stage. It was very close, both are great listening CD spinners. Of course the Emo comes in at almost half the price of the Panni.
Emo, pfft, jk 😂. Where ya been boy? -
ken brydson wrote: »
Emo, pfft, jk 😂. Where ya been boy?
Hey Ken, just stumbling along....if I were a tumbleweed I'd be......well, you know the songSource: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman