VTL TL2.5 Opinions

hochpt21
hochpt21 Posts: 5,341
Anyone have experience with this unit? May potentially upgrade from my Dared. Wonder how big of an upgrade it might be.

Thanks,
Paul
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2 Channel
Turntable - VPI Scout 1.1/Ortofon 2M Blue
Amplification - Parks Audio Budgie, Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 Deluxe
Speakers - GoldenEar Triton 2
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7.1 Home Theater
Denon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Polk CS350ls, LS90's, FXi3's, RC60i; SVS PC Ultra; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"
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Man Cave
Turntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado Gold
Integrated Amplifier - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II
CD: Cambridge Audio
Speakers - LSiM 703; SDA 2A; Epos Epic 2
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Comments

  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 45,608
    I had one years ago. It sounded good and presented a wide holographic stage. I've no experience with the Dared, so I can't offer a comparison.
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  • Gerres26
    Gerres26 Posts: 760
    There’s one for sale right now on the audiomart if you are looking. I thought about purchasing it myself but the lack of original box/packaging caused me to take a pass on it.
  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,341
    That’s the one I’m looking at. Decent price. I don’t think I’d lose much if I didn’t like it, but didn’t want to waste my time if it was not much of an upgrade.
    __________________________________________________
    2 Channel
    Turntable - VPI Scout 1.1/Ortofon 2M Blue
    Amplification - Parks Audio Budgie, Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 Deluxe
    Speakers - GoldenEar Triton 2
    __________________________________________________
    7.1 Home Theater
    Denon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Polk CS350ls, LS90's, FXi3's, RC60i; SVS PC Ultra; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"
    __________________________________________________
    Man Cave
    Turntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado Gold
    Integrated Amplifier - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II
    CD: Cambridge Audio
    Speakers - LSiM 703; SDA 2A; Epos Epic 2
    __________________________________________________
  • Gerres26
    Gerres26 Posts: 760
    I’m not sure if it’s an upgrade from the Dared or not...hopefully some folks who have heard both will chime in. I’m also looking at tube preamps in this price range currently and the VTL gets high praise almost universally.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 45,608
    edited February 28
    I see there's a VTL Stereo 70/70 listed also, which is a fairly rare amp. I had a different ultra rare Manley version of that amp. It went back home to the member I bought it from. Good stuff!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,341
    edited February 28
    @F1nut

    I know it was a while ago, but how would you say the preamp would hang in the sub $1,500 range (used)?
    __________________________________________________
    2 Channel
    Turntable - VPI Scout 1.1/Ortofon 2M Blue
    Amplification - Parks Audio Budgie, Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 Deluxe
    Speakers - GoldenEar Triton 2
    __________________________________________________
    7.1 Home Theater
    Denon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Polk CS350ls, LS90's, FXi3's, RC60i; SVS PC Ultra; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"
    __________________________________________________
    Man Cave
    Turntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado Gold
    Integrated Amplifier - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II
    CD: Cambridge Audio
    Speakers - LSiM 703; SDA 2A; Epos Epic 2
    __________________________________________________
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 45,608
    Hard for me to say. It's not junk, that I can tell you. Like I mentioned above, I do recall it had an amazing holographic stage.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 12,393
    While I'm not super familiar with either unit.....VTL/Manley gear is generally very good. Soundstaging, depth and air without the overly romantic/warm/lush sound associated with a lot of tube gear (a lot of older CJ gear, for example). The Dared units I've heard were more on the warm/lush side....if that's what you are looking for.
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,072
    Gerres26 wrote: »
    I’m not sure if it’s an upgrade from the Dared or not...hopefully some folks who have heard both will chime in. I’m also looking at tube preamps in this price range currently and the VTL gets high praise almost universally.

    Having had a tricked out Dared and a 2.5,, I would take the VTL ,, btw,, the VTL was stock
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 45,608
    There's your answer.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 9,523
    @verb has this pre and was impressed by the performance.
  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,341
    Great feedback. Thanks folks.
    __________________________________________________
    2 Channel
    Turntable - VPI Scout 1.1/Ortofon 2M Blue
    Amplification - Parks Audio Budgie, Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 Deluxe
    Speakers - GoldenEar Triton 2
    __________________________________________________
    7.1 Home Theater
    Denon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Polk CS350ls, LS90's, FXi3's, RC60i; SVS PC Ultra; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"
    __________________________________________________
    Man Cave
    Turntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado Gold
    Integrated Amplifier - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II
    CD: Cambridge Audio
    Speakers - LSiM 703; SDA 2A; Epos Epic 2
    __________________________________________________
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