LP cleaning system:
Joey_V
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Looking seriously at getting a cleaning system that will last me a while.
2 things come to mind.
1. Degritter
2. Audio Desk
What say you? Or is there a cheaper but still elegant and functional solution?
Looking to make the move within 4 weeks
2 things come to mind.
1. Degritter
2. Audio Desk
What say you? Or is there a cheaper but still elegant and functional solution?
Looking to make the move within 4 weeks
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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By elegant, do you mean, mostly hands off, no fuss, no mess?
Most get good results with a few of the main vacuum record cleaning machines out there, but I can see the case for wanting to simplify the process.
Another one for consideration would be this unit @Clipdat Drew reviewed:
https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/188301/kirmuss-audio-vinyl-cleaning-system
https://theaudiobeatnik.com/kirmuss-audio-ultrasonic-record-groove-restoration-system-expectations-vs-reality/I disabled signatures. -
"What say you? Or is there a cheaper but still elegant and functional solution?"
Literally any vacuum system is exponentially cheaper, faster, and can be equally elegant and functional. I've heard of some people keeping both options in house. One for quick cleans, one for deep cleaning.Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
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Somehow stumbled onto this video... it seems amazing
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIoaS8S4tLg
@displayname pls watch and tell me your thoughts
Seems like the one touch clean might be legitimateMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
You sure pay for the elegance of the degritter, but nothing comes close to the convenience and those that have used ultrasonic cleaners can attest to their performance. You are going to end up with it down the road, so I would find a way to do it sooner rather than later. The only other model that I would consider would be the Kirmuss Audio at 1/3 the cost of the two you are looking at. Kevin at Upscale Audio carries them, if I recall correctly.HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable
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I believe @doctor r bought a Degritter. Maybe he can comment.
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Ask this guy
https://youtu.be/WZHjRe-hm_s -
Don't ask this guy. What could he possibly know, he's only 22 years old.
https://youtu.be/fr8O_jZhpl4 -
Somehow stumbled onto this video... it seems amazinghttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIoaS8S4tLg
@displayname pls watch and tell me your thoughts
Seems like the one touch clean might be legitimate
It does look impressive, there's no denying that. And I do think Ultrasonic offers a deeper clean than a vacuum. But for average cleaning (aka records not rubbed in dirt and potato chips) it might not be needed.
When you said "cheaper but still elegant and functional" - that's a vacuum system.
If you said "hands down best cleaning" - I'd put my money on Krimuss.
If you said "hybrid of both worlds and cost is no object" then I think Degritter is likely a great option.
Where you land on this spectrum is a bit of a personal choice, with no real wrong answers. Based on your previous buying habits, I fully expect to see a thread on your new Degritter next week.
Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
MastersounD Dueventi > Rosso Fiorentino Certaldo or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
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I've had the Audio Desk for quite a few years now, and have been very happy with it. If it died today, I would immediately order another.
I know many would claim 4k is an insane amount to pay for a cleaner, but I guarantee some of them have spent more on equipment upgrades that didn't make as great an audible improvement as this type of cleaner will.HT
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Agreed cmy330go
That’s the general consensus I get from my friends who have the audio desk
It’s unfortunate it costs so much but seems like a necessary evil.
Black or white....?
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I dig the white. I'm growing tired of black on everything. Mainly cars and trucks, but it's bleeding over into all kinds of other things too. Would love to hear your opinions on that one if you go through with it.HT
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Definitely silver over the black.
These things sure are cool, but way over my budget for something like that. I'm sure it would help out in making a few of my records sound better as they look pristine, but for some reason just have pops and crackle. I just can't justify something like this for my limited collection of 100 or so LPs. If I had a large collection, I can see how I could probably justify it. But at $3000, that amounts to $30 for a clean of each record. Not cost effective.
Wish I lived near you. Would like to see if a record or two of mine would actually clean up good with a machine like this.
Happy record cleaning!Speakers
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GospelTruth wrote: »Definitely silver over the black.
These things sure are cool, but way over my budget for something like that. I'm sure it would help out in making a few of my records sound better as they look pristine, but for some reason just have pops and crackle. I just can't justify something like this for my limited collection of 100 or so LPs. If I had a large collection, I can see how I could probably justify it. But at $3000, that amounts to $30 for a clean of each record. Not cost effective.
Wish I lived near you. Would like to see if a record or two of mine would actually clean up good with a machine like this.
Happy record cleaning!
When I get it, next month (I declined to purchase this month’s allocation), you can send me your records and I’ll clean it for you.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
the before mentioned
KirmussAudio KA-RC-1 Ultrasonic Record Restoration System Package is on sale.
https://elusivedisc.com/kirmussaudio-ka-rc-1-ultrasonic-record-restoration-system-package
I have no experience with it.
You still need some kind of vacuum IMO.Speakers: Polk Lsim, ATC SCM19 v2, NHT SuperzeroSpeaker Cables: DH Labs, Transparent, Wireworld, Canare, Monster: Beer budget, Bose ears -
Kirmuss takes like 30 minutes man
@SIHAB
I watched the video, doesn’t seem like the vacuum beats degritterMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
FYI: While looking at one online magazine, I saw this cleaning machine that was introduced in 2019. It is available on Amazon less than a grand. It sure looks like is has too many parts to make it simple to operate and maintain.
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Kirmuss takes like 30 minutes man
@SIHAB
I watched the video, doesn’t seem like the vacuum beats degritter
I use a RCM and a "homemade" URC machine made by a Club Polk member.
After cleaning a record w/ the URC I rinse and vacuum with the RCM.
For you, the degritter sounds like the way to go just for the time savings...
P.S. I use my RCM to rinse sweep off dust that may have been imparted onto
the vinyl by the inner sleeve or whatever before playing if needed. Take a minute
or so.
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@Joey_V have you decided on which sleeves you are going to use? No sense cleaning records just to put them back into dirty sleeves. Might as well stock up when you order the Degritter.Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
MastersounD Dueventi > Rosso Fiorentino Certaldo or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
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I ordered MOFI inner and outerdisplayname wrote: »@Joey_V have you decided on which sleeves you are going to use? No sense cleaning records just to put them back into dirty sleeves. Might as well stock up when you order the Degritter.
All is ready
Just went to my friends house tonight with a base avenger... his attention to detail is beyond mine, I need to work on a few things.
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Gustard X26 Pro DAC
Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)
There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus -
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Having met the used car salesman and seen his Kirmuss in action.....PASS!Political Correctness'.........defined
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Having met the used car salesman and seen his Kirmuss in action.....PASS!
Interesting....Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Yes, after watching the vid I wouldn't use his method...
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Kirmuss takes like 30 minutes man
@SIHAB
I watched the video, doesn’t seem like the vacuum beats degritter
30 minutes a record!? That's like 3 beers!
I'd be hammered before the needle hit the lead grove! Pass... -
That's the minimum. It calls for repeats until no white foam shows up on the scrub. Could take multiple passes.Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
MastersounD Dueventi > Rosso Fiorentino Certaldo or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
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The secret to no foam is don't work the brush.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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