What would you do? Add More speaks or center?
This LSi7 deal has me in a dilly of a pickle. I currently have 4 rti38s and a dayton sub. At the price of 200 bucks a pair its soooo hard to not go for this deal, yet at this point I dont have a center. What would you guys recommend? Try and sell one pair of RTi38s and get the LSi7s + amp, OR get a center channel speaker and just call it good.
edit: on a tight budget, less is better
edit: on a tight budget, less is better
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Get a pair of LSi7's and use them as your fronts, move a pair of RTi38's to be your center. Better yet, get 3 pairs of LSi7's like I did...
What receiver do you have? I think you can live with it for now with the LSi7's and get the amp later on. I tested my system with 5 LSi7's (fronts, center and surrounds) with H/K AVR7200 and it sounded pretty good. For music these are a lot better than my current RTi70's (fronts and center). I will have to decide what I will do, keep the RTi70's as my HT speakers and build a 2ch system with the 7's, or move them out and put the 7's in all around. -
Yeah but I'm on a somewhat tight budget... I suppose I could use one pair as center front and rear but I dont really need the rear..plus placing it would be awkward.
Would an Audiosource Amp-One/A be able to power these things?
Also, I read that the bass on these speakers leaves much to be desired and is not much of a party aka bass rock/hip hop/alternative speaker which is the kind of music I listen to.
What do you guys who have heard them or have experience with them think about that?
my receiver is a Pioneer VSX-D812K which does NOT handle 4ohm speakers...
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snooze you loose.....
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wow thx for the insightful post dave
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I think you would (because of a tight budget) be better served by getting a center and saving the money the 38's are very good speakers and you will have a setup that will sound much better having a center.
My 2 cents
Dave -
Only kidding on the above post, sorry forgot the face (:D )
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yeah thats the way I'm leaning...I wont be able to do the LSi7s justice with my current equipment...
I'm already extremely close to living outside my means. :rolleyes: -
Originally posted by dave shepard
Only kidding on the above post, sorry forgot the face (:D )
yeah i know :cool:
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Getting a center (CSi-30 IMO for the 38's) will give you a fuller more inveloping sound with better seperation with movies then not having a center.
Dave -
That was one helluva stichomythia!!
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We try but sometimes can't spell worth a damn
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So are you saying you don't have surrounds? I thought you said you have 4 * RTi38's. EDIT: nevermind, you said rear center (6.1). The point is that you would have a decent center with two of those RTi38's hooked into the center channel and those 7's would improve your mains considerably. Or just hook one RTi38 in the center.
Your receiver will do fine with the LSi7's. While you won't get the full potential of the LSi7's, they will still sound better than the RTi38's and won't set you back anymore than a decent center would. Get the 7's for that money while you can, if you still can. You can always add an amp later on. -
But my receiver says it only supports 6ohm or 8 ohm...
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Originally posted by Sami
So are you saying you don't have surrounds? I thought you said you have 4 * RTi38's. EDIT: nevermind, you said rear center (6.1). The point is that you would have a decent center with two of those RTi38's hooked into the center channel and those 7's would improve your mains considerably. Or just hook one RTi38 in the center.
He said he would sell a pr. of 38's to get the 7's and an amp. That would leave him with 4 speakers again not a good idea when on a budget IMO. The addition of a center would be the wiser choice. Although I don't see how it would be poss. to get a decient amp for the price diff. of selling the 38's and buying the 7's, sounds more of a break even to me.
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It will handle them. I had no problem cranking them up with the 7200 and I have a pair in my bedroom powered by an old Pioneer SX-255R. Sure it doesn't sound all that great but it will still play them loud.Originally posted by rnp614
But my receiver says it only supports 6ohm or 8 ohm...
All I'm saying is that you won't be able to get the 7's for this price much longer, get them while you can. You can still play them without a problem and get a better sound than from the 38's. Adding an amp later on will then make them sound even better. -
kinda off the topic, but based on how many there are out there now, how hard would it be to get RTi70s in about 3 years? Just curious
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dave, if I were to buy the LSi7s with no amp, and use one of the RTi38s for the center (how could I use both of em?) how would you rate that plan of attack?
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A mismatch. One 38 will make sound but will not sound nearly as good as a CSi30/40 they are not made to do center duty (not to mention using one). the LSi7's and RTi38's will not sound the same either and I'm sure will not mix closely enough to give good play back quality for movies or music due to there not being in the same series and will probably be noticable IMO.
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While the 38's and 7's do not match in sound, considering his situation I would still do it. Of course adding a CSi30 or CSi20 would get him timbermatched speakers, he would be missing out on the 7's. If you don't listen to music much then get a CSi20 which can be had for $50. I had one before I replaced it with RTi70 and it wasn't a bad center at all.
All I can say is that three RTi70's in the front has worked very well for me. Much better than two 70's and a CSi30.
If your budget allows it, get two pairs of LSi7's and use three of them for front l+r and center. That would give you timbermatched fronts and center. You will hear the difference especially when you start to play music. Later on if/when your room layout allows it, you can use the extra speaker for rear center. -
Originally posted by rnp614
(how could I use both of em?)
You could use a Y spliter and then run two cables (one to ea speaker) or run two runs of center speaker wire from the same plug on the reciever but the end result I wouldn't know and can't really recomend but can recomend a CSi30 for a good match or the 40 if you pefer the 40's sound better and both centers will IMO sound better then using a 38 as the center.
IMO for the 38's.......
CSi30 1st choice
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Yeah I'm actively pursuing a lead on a guy's CSi30...hopefully it'll work out and I can be content with my decision
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Originally posted by Sami
All I can say is that three RTi70's in the front has worked very well for me. Much better than two 70's and a CSi30.
That had to be an odd looking steup. Where did you put the center 70, ontop you tvset?
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Originally posted by rnp614
Yeah I'm actively pursuing a lead on a guy's CSi30...hopefully it'll work out and I can be content with my decision
I think you will be.
Good luck
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It all comes down to what you want to do, watch movies or listen to music. If you mainly watch movies then adding a center would be the choice. If you also listen to music then pursuing the 7's would be a good move. Having no center speaker is the worst case.
Having no center leads me to one question...how do you connect your DVD? Analog or digital connection? I would imagine having no center and DD/DTS would make the dialog hard to hear. -
Right now my usage is probably 70% music 30% movies...it'll probably be closer to 60-40 soon once I move into a bigger room.
EDIT: not sure if this changes what you all think about everything. -
For music, there is definately a huge improvement from RTi70's to LSi7's (assuming subwoofer is used). That is the reason why I'm considering moving the RTi70's and replacing them with LSi7's all around, fronts, center and surrounds. Would make sweet DVD-A listening...
A-B testing with LSi7's and RTi6's also showed the LSi7 being a much better sounding speaker. This of course is my opinion but I can't help to say that the difference was quite noticeable.
What is your budget? Is someone already interested in the 38's and if so, how much are you getting from those? Lets say you could get $300-350 for all 4, that would be about $300-350 extra to get 3 pairs of LSi7's and that would be my choice to do. -
well the absolute max would be like 250-ish 300 is damn near breaking the bank, and no i have noone in line on the RTi38s...I dont think i'd really be able to sell them.
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Since music is in higher priority, I honestly think you're better off with the LSi7's. I'll put my flamesuit on before I say this but mismatched center and fronts are not that big of a deal to pass up on the 7's for a little over $200 a pair.
Later on after you have added that amp, find a used LSiC if that mismatch is bothering you.
I'm still wondering about your audio connection, I'm thinking you must have it connected analog? -
audio connection? You mean from my music source? I am currently using a PC so its a RCA cable that connects it to my receiver...I also have PS2 that I'll be using.
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I mean for movies. Also RCA cable? If so then you're not getting DD or DTS for your movies, you will need to hook up digital connection.Originally posted by rnp614
audio connection? You mean from my music source? I am currently using a PC so its a RCA cable that connects it to my receiver...I also have PS2 that I'll be using.
