Marantz releases a new Integrated and SACD Player

Mike Reeter
Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
edited September 2020 in 2 Channel Audio
Looks like an all new design of an Integrated Amplifier and a new SACD/Network Player in the Reference Line.

I like the new look. From what I've seen posted, looks like $2500. each.

https://www.us.marantz.com/en-us/shop/marantzna-hificomponents/model30
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  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 1,148
    Big media push. Nice to see an audio brand finally getting on board with the reviews that drop on announcement day. Most other consumer segments have been operating like this for years.

    Haven't watched these yet, but saw them all over my suggested YouTube videos.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnqOFiA7JKM
    https://youtu.be/Lr1AIw1yjkk
    https://youtu.be/X9FQGxD5L_M
    https://youtu.be/eev81F3GyDU

    I'm sure we'll see more dropping this week. A little surprised Guttenberg wasn't on this early run of reviews too.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2020
    I'm curious why Marantz, or at least some reviewers, are calling the integrated amp an "all analog" design when it has an analog preamp section but a Class D amp section. I'm not in the market for another integrated amp, but the Model 30 amp and player appear to have a lot of bases covered for a two box audio system. I would be more inclined to look at the SACD player/network streamer myself. At first when I saw photos I thought they were not full width components but they are. For the money, the innards look run of the mill in my humble opinion.

    Photos of the innards here:

    https://darko.audio/2020/09/marantz-announces-model-30-integrated-sacd-30n-disc-network-player/


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  • SIHAB
    SIHAB Posts: 4,899
    I likey! :D
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,237
    I like, I would love to simplify my system with something like this..
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,934
    edited September 2020
    Their internal designs look remarkably similar to the Ruby components, minus the copper plated chassis.

    Ruby integrated:
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    Model 30 integrated:
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    Ruby SACD/DAC:
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    Model 30 SACD/DAC/network player:
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  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 1,148
    The integrated look very very similar. Obviously still some differences, but the integrated certainly feels like a photo hunt for differences because the layout is so similar. It would be fun if someone did a deep dive and called out the differences.
    Types of parts, number of capacitors, etc. Basically come to a conclusion that X% is actually the same when looking just at the sum of the parts.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,801
    edited September 2020
    I like the look, as well (FWIW).
    I do not like the current (now previous?) Marantz style (again FWIW) -- too much arbitrary 'shape' on the front panels.

    On the other hand, the new Marantz reminds me of... old, old old harman/kardon. :p

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    Even the very early (1954) h/k "Festival" D-1100... the first integrated amp/preamp/tuner for hifi.

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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,489
    I see now why the Integrated is called all analog. It’s because on the Model 30 and Ruby integrated amps Marantz made a design choice to not include a DAC (digital) in the integrated but put it in the SACD player instead. Idea is apparently to sell two units together.

    The copper chassis on the Ruby models is one notable difference. Parts on the preamp board on the right side may be better on the Ruby integrated too. The Model 30 look more like they are built to a price point, but are definitely trickle down from the more expensive models.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,489
    Even though they cost more, it looks to me like the Ruby models are the better deal for the money.
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,934
    Emlyn wrote: »
    The Model 30 look more like they are built to a price point, but are definitely trickle down from the more expensive models.

    Well said, and I agree.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,546
    edited September 2020
    Me no likey the looks. Not thrilled that the integrated has a "dumping factor" either.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,546
    A comment from another forum that echos my thoughts, "It looks aimed at hypsters for my taste."
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    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    I have always enjoyed Marantz quality equipment. This new 2 channel system seems very nice. I have no opinion on it as I have not demo'd it but I plan to.
    I think the style is very nice fresh and modern. If history repeats itself, this should be a damn good system.
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