2.3 TL'S best position?

billben3

hi, best position for 2.3 TL'S, distance from front wall, distance from side walls,
no SDS cable connected,running as normal speakers

F1nut

No SDA cable, no point.

xschop

2.3TL's without SDA cables are best positioned in their shipping/storage boxes.

gmcman

You could probably use the center pin of a long RCA cable until you found a more suitable replacement.

billben3

SDA cable is not the problem, i tried and they sound **** at least on rock and metal music that i'm listening mostly, i prefer their sound as normal stereo speakers
i've place'em "by the book" as the polk manual suggests, 3 feet from side walls
and 6-7" from the front wall, just asking if someone tried different positioning with better results.

billben3

turntable - Sound By Design Quasar LTE
tonearm - Rega RB300 - Cardas Incognito rewired
cartridge - Goldring Eroica LX (MC 0.5 mV)
phono stage - Trichord Dino/Dino Plus
cd player - Arcam Alpha 5
dac - Grace Design m903
pre-amp - Cary SLP98 (6sn7 NOS Sylvania)
power amp - Ayre V3
Kimber Cable interconnects and speaker cables
Electrocompaniet/Symphonic Line/Clear Audio power cables

pitdogg2

Mine are 3.75" off back wall and 5' from any side walls. They love power and more importantly current. If you are using a lower powered amp or receiver then they will sound like crud. Here's my progression I started with a fully modified/recapped Carver TFM 45, Adcom 5802, Aragon 4004mkii now Aragon 8008bb.
The Aragons have been the largest improvement because they have tons of current and they grab ahold of the drivers and master their movement with authority.

TroyD

Best position?

My living room.

Let me know what time you would like to drop them by.

BDT

Emlyn

The placement in the photo above shows the speakers too close to the side walls and the rack will interfere with the sound too. Better to pick a different pair of speakers for that space that can be set up so they are pulled out into the room so the baffles are just in front of the rack. The 2.3TL placement requires the speakers to be placed fairly close to the front wall, which means they are the wrong speakers for the space and system above. The TV screen in the middle will also mess with the two channel sound.

The 3 feet or more from the side walls and 6" to 12" from the front wall are good guidelines for SDAs. One of the drawbacks to the 2.3TLs and other big SDAs is they really need a lot of space to function as designed. They can overload a smallish room and not sound their best.

Looks like a really nice system if different speakers are used.

billben3

Ayre V3 is 100@8, 200@4, polk is 6 omhs,so is something like 150 watt @6
it sounds great, but when i first got'em (november 2019) i linked the sds cable,
i really don't like this weird soundstage they make, i don't know, i prefer
listen to them as normal speakers.maybe in home theater mode, but not in music
,at least in hard rock/metal no thanks.

pitdogg2

Argree 100% with Emlyn. That rack and TV and close proximity to the sidewalls are fouling up the soundstage.

DaveHo

I'll echo all the other comments. That space is too small for those speakers. Having the equipment rack between & in front of them is probably why you prefer them without the SDA cable.

Emlyn

A new pair of L600s would fit there nicely.

https://www.polkaudio.com/products/l600

billben3

of course they love current, how else would they move all these woofers?
my previous speakers were these canadian Coincident Triumph

great speaker, very clear but nothing to do with the 2.3s
rock and metal is sounds great now
is something like i placed a wall of sound in the front wall.

billben3

indeed they need more space,especially for the SDA effect to work properly.
Also the 55" tv in the middle adds this harsh effect as all screens and windows
act in sound reflections, hope to place'em in a bigger room soon........
but when i saw the ad with that guy selling these speakers i couldn't resist.....hehehe!!
I'm living in Athens, Greece guys, these polk and all the SRS series
never imported here,the guy that sold me them imported the 2.3 tl's by himself from
the states back in 92.

billben3

you think if i shorten this equipment rack, (it's a diy one) maybe i give'em more room to breathe?
just thinking of it.....

audioluvr

billben3 wrote: »

you think if i shorten this equipment rack, (it's a diy one) maybe i give'em more room to breathe?
just thinking of it.....

That and a ton of room treatments

billben3

yeah, it needs some absorption and diffusion panels, the ceiling is done with
diy GIK Acoustics Soffit Bass Traps

billben3

something like this but with whiter fabric

billben3

this one

filled with Aritherm, (something like rockwool, but not toxic,i don't like to breathe this ****.)

billben3

in small rooms the right treatment is LEDE, Means the front wall (back from speakers)
and side walls is live (with diffusors) and the back wall (behind the listener) is dead, means absorption (rockwool panels and things like that) so you avoid the back reflections
return to the listening position.

invalid

My sda2A's didn't really sing until I got a krell ksa 300s amp, I'm sure the 2.3's would work better with more power. I also have a tv between mine and they still image great.

audioluvr

So in a small room like yours you need to eliminate side reflection for the SDA to work otherwise you just have a bunch of noise bouncing around which sounds like cra p as you've found out. Work on that

billben3

so,absorption in side walls against of diffusion?

stones89

Pull them out further into the room. And play with toe in if used as a traditional speaker.

VR3

@F1nut living room