What would you do?

mantismantis Posts: 15,491
Ok,
I have owned the Definitive Technology Mythos series speakers for about 10 years now. I never ever held on to a speakers package this long before. I loved getting a package, living with it for a while then going out and finding the next system as I wanted more. When I got the Mythos series which I fell in love with when I was installing them I have tried to replace them a few times but never found anything I felt was a better system within my price range.
Recently my one Mythos ST tower's sub amp Volume control stopped responding and now I have to send the sub amp in for repair. This issue with the volume control not working is the sub is HOT and I can't adjust it. I makes the entire speaker un balanced and way to heavy bass to the point of shaking the hell out fo the grill.
There are no replacement parts available for these anymore as they are discontinued. I'm gonna get it fixed but as I do love them BUT I'm now really thinking of replacing them.
I have a 5.2.2 current Atmos system.
So my idea is which I'm having an extremely hard time finding is find a pair of Mythos 10's and mount them to the wall as left and right and get rid of the ST towers. Then add 2 floor subs either a pair I already own or try out SVS or go with JL audio 2 of them. This is a pretty good idea as it frees up the space on the left of my cabinet as Christmas time we put the tree in the left corner and usually a fat sucker and i have to move my left channel Mythos ST closer to the cabinet for a few weeks. Yeah Yeah I know 1st world problems bo hoo but it's annoying the entire time. If I had wall mounted speakers they would not be an issue and left is good with or without a christmas tree.
OR I look for an entirely new speaker package that can out preform the Mythos series I own which is no easy task. I have yet to find a 5 channel speaker package under 10K that is better then the Mythos for both Music and movies. These things are excellent at both.They are smooth like Dynaudio, Monitor Audio or B&W for music and Dynamic Like Klipsch Reference series for Movies. It's pretty impressive but I can't get new grills which I could use at least 1 new on the other one is fine but it would be nice to have a fresh brand new set with no broken pegs. The Broken one has about 4 broken pegs and the other one has I think only one broken peg.
I'm digging back into Monitor Audio as I feel they are a pretty killer line but I'm not sure if I'll feel like I upgraded or just got new different speakers. I'm at that point where It would take a much greater amount of money to improve on this system and I'm not sure what I want to do.
I had the LSIM703's in the house years ago on demo and I thought they where pretty damn nice but the Mythos ST's stomped them in everything sound.Shame as it would have been cool to go back to a full polk audio system. The LSIM came close but they don't have a direct firing surround speaker I would have to go in wall for that duty and I don't remember seeing a direct perfect matching in wall to the LSIM's.
Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.

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  • shsshs Posts: 53
    I am not sure what you mean by the LSiMs don't have a direct firing surround speaker. The 702 F/X are monopole speakers, i.e. one tweeter, one midrange and one woofer in an on-wall unit. The tricky part is that the mid and tweeter are at an angle so they need to be placed either forward or behind your MLP.
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  • Hey Mantis - I remember all your old DefTech posts. You inspired me to check them out before :).

    Since your looking for something new, can you get deals on the Legend Series? Definitely check them out or see if you can demo them. I particularly like the L600 more than the Mythos STS and ST-L.
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 23,653
    Are you sure definitive doesn't have parts?

    I order stuff all the time for twenty year old plus speakers
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • halo71halo71 Posts: 4,419
    VR3 wrote: »
    Are you sure definitive doesn't have parts?

    I order stuff all the time for twenty year old plus speakers

    I agree, they sent me a new amp for one of my ProTower 400's. For free. I even told them I bought them used, knowing the amp was bad. Not sure how old this model is though.
    --Gary--
  • DabutcherDabutcher Posts: 2,171
    I would wait til the next Adorama sale and get the package deal for LSim 707 or 705 if your room is smaller? Center 706 or 704. 703 or FX for rear or rear and sides. At least 150 watts to fronts and the rest off the AVR For $2500-3500 I think it would be an awesome set up. I really like my 705’s and the 703’s before that for two channel movies or music. Good luck. D
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  • mantismantis Posts: 15,491
    shs wrote: »
    I am not sure what you mean by the LSiMs don't have a direct firing surround speaker. The 702 F/X are monopole speakers, i.e. one tweeter, one midrange and one woofer in an on-wall unit. The tricky part is that the mid and tweeter are at an angle so they need to be placed either forward or behind your MLP.
    They are a stupid design and I'm not into them at all. I feel they are placement tricky and can't be mounted as intended 90 degrees to the sides at 72 inches to the tweeter. They have a stupid name for the 3 1/2 inch driver and tweeter array and then add a woofer off straight. I'm all out.

    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,491
    TopperDude wrote: »
    Hey Mantis - I remember all your old DefTech posts. You inspired me to check them out before :).

    Since your looking for something new, can you get deals on the Legend Series? Definitely check them out or see if you can demo them. I particularly like the L600 more than the Mythos STS and ST-L.
    Cool man yes I can get Legend series speakers but no one as usual has them set up anywhere to go check them out.

    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,491
    VR3 wrote: »
    Are you sure definitive doesn't have parts?

    I order stuff all the time for twenty year old plus speakers


    Yup I talked to them and there are no parts available anymore. I need a grill and a new amp module. They told me they can fix the amp module but I'm beat on the grill. That doesn't make me want to keep them or buy new Def Tech's as much as I love them. They just came out with a new series but the service over there has gone way down hill. I emailed them twice and didn't get a response until I called and called and finally got a call back and learned this.
    I hate it man but maybe I'll discover something worth moving on.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,491
    Dabutcher wrote: »
    I would wait til the next Adorama sale and get the package deal for LSim 707 or 705 if your room is smaller? Center 706 or 704. 703 or FX for rear or rear and sides. At least 150 watts to fronts and the rest off the AVR For $2500-3500 I think it would be an awesome set up. I really like my 705’s and the 703’s before that for two channel movies or music. Good luck. D
    They are nice speakers but I would need something better. I had the 703's here and got a good taste of how they sound. My Def Tech's stomped them and they didn't show me anything that I would want to move to them. If I didn't own the Mythos ST's I could however see myself being happy with that line. But once you go up it's really hard to go back down.

    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,432
    Focal Aria?

    I use Focal in my HT and I find them to be excellent at both HT and music.

    I also found Focal’s customer service to be excellent.
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  • DabutcherDabutcher Posts: 2,171
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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 23,653
    The new series is a far departure from the old stuff in almost every way. Sound quality, build quality, etc
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • mantis wrote: »
    TopperDude wrote: »
    Hey Mantis - I remember all your old DefTech posts. You inspired me to check them out before :).

    Since your looking for something new, can you get deals on the Legend Series? Definitely check them out or see if you can demo them. I particularly like the L600 more than the Mythos STS and ST-L.
    Cool man yes I can get Legend series speakers but no one as usual has them set up anywhere to go check them out.

    You may also want to look into the new DefTech Demand Series. No built-in amps so no major service issues to worry about down the line. Haven't heard them yet but I expect them to be good and will check them out when i get the chance.
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,664
    edited January 17
    I had some volume control and input issues with a guitar amp, which I had pretty much written off. But I was bored one day, so I opened it up and found a bunch of cold solder joints throughout the thing. resoldered them, and voila! like new.

    All that to say, if you haven't yet, you should open it up and take a peek. it could be as simple as a cold solder joint. :)

    Also, after a brief Google to fully figure out what the Mythos were, I found this... https://www.crutchfield.com/S-9eYgE3ZQ1HC/p_735MYTHSTS/Definitive-Technology-Mythos-STS-SuperTower.html?XVINQ=GLX&awkw=75619413265&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=47439141265&awdv=c&awug=9011757&gclid=Cj0KCQiA04XxBRD5ARIsAGFygj-cJoogz6fFYnP6TjcQMvzcX1aHsbqvmxlh7UGKrWLuA_1E4qCVH1MaAg5jEALw_wcB
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    I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.

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  • mantismantis Posts: 15,491
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    Focal Aria?

    I use Focal in my HT and I find them to be excellent at both HT and music.

    I also found Focal’s customer service to be excellent.
    Not a bad idea I have not messed around with Focal in about 7 years. When I was at Audiolab we did many Focal systems and they where always fantastic.

    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,491
    Dabutcher wrote: »
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    That's a rather large step down from where I sit currently. But the BP line is pretty awesome. I have done tons of Installs with them and one of the best sounding systems at that time was when the 8080 series came out and we did full 8080 theaters with Pioneer SC-68's in the front end. It's was epic to say the least.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,491
    VR3 wrote: »
    The new series is a far departure from the old stuff in almost every way. Sound quality, build quality, etc
    I wonder about the new Demand series which sits as flagship. The bookshelf models that came out first years ago where pretty nice and sounded great.

    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,491
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    I had some volume control and input issues with a guitar amp, which I had pretty much written off. But I was bored one day, so I opened it up and found a bunch of cold solder joints throughout the thing. resoldered them, and voila! like new.

    All that to say, if you haven't yet, you should open it up and take a peek. it could be as simple as a cold solder joint. :)

    Also, after a brief Google to fully figure out what the Mythos were, I found this... https://www.crutchfield.com/S-9eYgE3ZQ1HC/p_735MYTHSTS/Definitive-Technology-Mythos-STS-SuperTower.html?XVINQ=GLX&awkw=75619413265&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=47439141265&awdv=c&awug=9011757&gclid=Cj0KCQiA04XxBRD5ARIsAGFygj-cJoogz6fFYnP6TjcQMvzcX1aHsbqvmxlh7UGKrWLuA_1E4qCVH1MaAg5jEALw_wcB
    I headed in and found everything as it should. One Cap looked to be covered in some kind of brown goo but it might be sloppy work or the cap blew.

    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 23,653
    edited January 17
    Not sure about the demand series, but what I saw with the 8000 series was far away from the 7000/3000/2000.

    .75 inch cab construction throughout versus using 1 to 1.5 inch thick at the drivers. Plastic speaker baskets, non mirror imaged pairs. Just really cheapened the whole line up. The amps are even cheaper built as well

    The 7000 tower set with the built in super cube reference sub is the pinnacle of definitive, imo. They still demand 2k used
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,491
    I've installed a few 7000 series theaters back in the day and they where breath taking. Sheer power and dynamics is what one would want in an explosive sounding home theater system. I really like the 7000 series Def Tech's. The 8000's where also great sounding despite the cheaper built quality. I don't care for the 9000 series looks with the black and sliver.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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