New SDA 1A owner - Cabinet questions

jhouse55
jhouse55 Posts: 13
edited December 2019 in Vintage Speakers
Hello All,
I just picked up a pair of these last night. Two things off the bat, one speaker has a SL1000 tweeter, and the other has a blown SL2000. I can work on that, but was looking to see what the best thing to do with one of the speakers that got moisture in the past. Looks like the front edge piece needs some work and would love to make another piece, but finding a matching veneer piece may be impossible. Is just gluing the piece of veneer all I can do? Is this veneer able to sand down (lightly?) Please see pics and thanks in advance. qxudvwpqleq4.jpeg
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,542
    Save yourself time and money, part them out. Water damaged particleboard is beyond repair.
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  • I’ll get some use out of them first, kind of looking bad if you tip this one back. Is there much difference in sound between these and the SDA 2’s with the two drivers versus four? There are a set here locally, and noticed they had the wood top instead,, Newguy here on these SDA units, but should have went with the wood tops.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,542
    Yes, there is a huge difference, for the better.
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  • Dammit! Thanks though F1
  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 5,000
    If it is just the bottom perimeter damaged, can you just cut the entire bottom off and replace with solid wood?
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  • JayMX
    JayMX Posts: 446
    edited December 2019
    I picked up a pair with water damage on the base of one riser a while back. I was able to build up the area with bondo, sanded and stained. It wasn’t perfect, but it did look better.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,437
    xschop wrote: »
    If it is just the bottom perimeter damaged, can you just cut the entire bottom off and replace with solid wood?

    The riser is already gone from the looks of the picture. That appears to be the bottom of the cabinet itself.
  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 5,000
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    xschop wrote: »
    If it is just the bottom perimeter damaged, can you just cut the entire bottom off and replace with solid wood?

    The riser is already gone from the looks of the picture. That appears to be the bottom of the cabinet itself.

    I was referring to the bottom damaged partition/piece. Replace with same type wood, but solid piece.
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  • thanks for the comments guys,, this is my first pair of SDA’s. Due to the fact they sound so damm good, i am going to use them until the next pair comes along . I stupidly without knowing, went for these because they had the four drivers versus the two drivers like in a SDA 2. I am going to have to listen to a few different models in this price range, but i will wait to part these out until another arrives
    Local area near me (tampa), a guy has a set of SDA 2b mint for around 400, and another has a set of SDA 2 for around 350. I like the wood top and bottoms of the SDA 2 for obvious reasons now, whereas the 2b looks like a veneer special again. Your thoughts are greatly appreciated!

    @la2vegas I would take you up in a heartbeat if i was closer. What model are they?
  • jhouse55, go for the 2B's but try to negotiate a better price. These are one of the desired models.

    You will not find a better sound (with upgraded tweeters) unless you pay a lot more for the larger models.
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  • jhouse55
    jhouse55 Posts: 13
    edited December 2019
    Guys, I’m including two pics. One is the SDA2B no wood tops (guy says he has the original boxes too) and the other is of the SDA 2 with wood tops. Both i think i can get for 350. What has me baffled is the http://gimpod.com/sda-id.html site. It shows the 2B in black (studio) and it shows the wood tops as being 2B. If both are B versions, i think i’ll lean towards the wood tops if they are in good shape. Can i tell for sure on the back? I think they both say SDA 2. Thanks in advance, “thanks Polk for the new addiction”
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,437
    One is more than likely to be a SDA2a. One would need to check drivers on it to be certain.
    SDA2a has both drivers mw6510
  • Thanks @pitdogg2 , i might be able to get him to take one out. Is there much difference between the 6503 vs 6510? I sent you a pm reply on those SL tweeters if you get a chance to respond.
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    One is more than likely to be a SDA2a. One would need to check drivers on it to be certain.
    SDA2a has both drivers mw6510

  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,437
    SDA2b is the better speaker. It is cheaper to recap. Both drivers can be difficult to find.
    Yes I've seen your PM and answered it earlier in our PM conversation.
  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    jhouse55 wrote: »
    I’ll get some use out of them first, kind of looking bad if you tip this one back. Is there much difference in sound between these and the SDA 2’s with the two drivers versus four? There are a set here locally, and noticed they had the wood top instead,, Newguy here on these SDA units, but should have went with the wood tops.

    Hey @jhouse55 I was pretty much where you are today, only a few short years ago! Keep us updated, and as you have already seen, plenty of help and advice for us SDA lovers!

    And welcome! :smile:
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,542
    The SDA 2B Studio version came in black or brown wood grain vinyl.
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  • jhouse55
    jhouse55 Posts: 13
    edited December 2019
    Well went and listened to those brown walnut 2b models tonight. They are in perfect shape, and they sounded nice being pushed by a mcintosh amp, but i don't know, after hearing my 1A’s the other night, these just kind of sounded muffled. He also had a pair of 1C there with wooden tops. Those sounded a little more open and had the 194 tweeters in there. Im not sure if i’m just stuck on the four mid drivers vs two, but i did hear a difference tonight. Thursday, i’m going to look at those 2b with the wooden tops.

    Actually those might have been 2A units tonight, i’ll ask him tomorrow which type of connection is on the cable i noticed there are model differences in the A and B with the mid drivers
  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,582
    I've owned both the 2B's and 1C's The 2B's can be modded cheaper and can be TL'd which is another level up tweeter wise. Both are great speakers. You'll get a little more base extension with the 1C's
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  • guys, thanks for all the input. I went today and listened to the other wooden top 2B and liked them enough to cut a deal and they are now mine. Small little gouge on the back corner of one, so may look into filling if i can then sanding it down. Would love to do a light light sand on the top and bottoms, then re oil and they should be set for quite some time , outside of mods ;)
  • Faustin
    Faustin Posts: 1,149
    Pictures please?
  • Hi @Faustin , they are the ones above with he wood tops. Love them! I may make a seperate thread on the sanding and veneer chip
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,437
    I do not know if I'd sand, veneer is thin I just cleaned with lacquer thinner and wiped on polyurethane. I did 4 coats.
    mine were 2.3tl they just unbolted, I'm not sure how your top and bottoms come off.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,542
    The 2B end caps are glued and stapled.
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  • @F1nut , do you know which model sda 1 and 2 that came with risers mounted on the bottom? i have pretty much ruled out the wooden top versions. I don't see that info in gimpod
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,542
    Your 2B's never had risers.
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  • Yes, wooden tops, so you’re not sure on either on the overall question? I think I’ll hunt down some old brochures.
  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,582
    I believe only the wood top 1C's and 2B's were riserless. Though I think early studio 2B's had risers. I'm at least 50% sure on this.
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    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
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  • Thanks, looks like I will be making a set for my 1A. Just saw another pair of 1A’s on EBay that looks like they did the same.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,542
    Yeah I'm sure, but you have 2B's, so what does it matter? All of the SDA 1's and SDA 2's including the Studio 2B came with risers.
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