I2S (hdmi) connection

marvda1
marvda1 Posts: 4,901
in Going Digital
just tried this connection tonight between my jay's audio transport and L.K.S. dac and the sound is detailed with a large sound stage and spot on tonality. the notes are airy and come from a pitch black background.
i had been switching between coaxial and bnc to see which sounds best. if you have I2S connections give them a try. i'm just using some generic hdmi cables but will try some wireworld hdmi.
Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
Puritan PSM156
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    That's what I use with the PSA DSD. I'm using the WW Platinum Starlight and I agree, it's big, detailed and deep. Wish everything had this connection.
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,120
    I wanted so bad to use the I2S connection between my transport and dac. I was looking to upgraded my cable, but was told they are not compatible.
    Unfortunately, there isn’t an I2S standard

    Here’s what Brad (at Revelation Audio Labs) relayed to me

    "It is not possible since the North Star generates single-ended I2S and the PS Audio needs Differential I2S. Not compatible."

    btw Nice score on the LKS . . . What have you compared it to so far?
    AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Rythmik F12
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  • JayCee
    JayCee Posts: 1,500
    edited September 2019
    I have an Oppo BDP-105 but haven't attempted to use the I2S on my PS Audio Directstream DAC. As stated above...there is no standardized format for I2S. Anyone interested, there is a very long thread (among others) on the PSA site re. this subject and there are devices being successfully employed to do conversions from one manufacturer to another.

    https://forum.psaudio.com/t/getting-oppo-dsd-output-to-the-direct-stream-dac/2744/338
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    That's one of the reason I'm looking to have a complete PS system.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,403
    Does anyone know if the HDMI audio out from the UPD 205 works with the PSA Perfectwave?
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    Just thinking that Doug might be someone to reach out to on this. I know my April Audio dac has an I2s output, but, it uses a totally different type of cable than an HDMI. There may be a chance that a special cable can be built to fit a particular piece if the pinout is known.
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  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
    edited September 2019
    I2S uses an HDMI 2.0... I have an Oppo 203 with I2S interface upgrade board into my PSA Pre/Dac. I don't think the Oppo HDMI audio is I2S.

    The way to test it John would be to see if you can play SACD from the Oppo to the DAC... If you don't hear anything than the answer is no. :D

    http://www.oppomod.com/

    But don't be spoofed by a hybrid playing the cd layer.
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    Mikey081057 wrote: »
    I2S uses an HDMI 2.0... I have an Oppo 203 with I2S interface upgrade board into my PSA Pre/Dac. I don't think the Oppo HDMI audio is I2S.

    The way to test it John would be to see if you can play SACD from the Oppo to the DAC... If you don't hear anything than the answer is no. :D

    http://www.oppomod.com/

    But don't be spoofed by a hybrid playing the cd layer.

    I'm not sure that's a blanket statement. I have other pieces that have I2S and the cable is completely different than HDMI. Not the same number of conductors, and, dimensionally built differently.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    my l.k.s. dac has i2s-h and i2s-e connections, they are different connections.
    I am using the i2s-h (hdmi) connection.
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
    Puritan PSM156
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  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
    My PSAudio device uses the HDMI std and the oppomod card has jumper options for PSA and another I forget manufacturer... Both will use the HDMI cable.
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |

    ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's |
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