Best AVR for two channel playback....
nooshinjohn
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I already know that the abnove is an oxymoron, but I need to ask as I am going to have to sell my beloved PASS LABS stack, and likely a bunch of other stuff as well. Pioneer is going to give me a heck of a deal, but I am not beholden to that choice. I like the Yamaha CX5100 pre, but not sure how it will perform two channel duty.
Advice?
Advice?
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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I would describe the 10xx and above Yamaha Aventage line as neutral. Not bright, not warm, in the middle. I would assume the CX5100 to be similar.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
Get the fook outta here for even asking that question.
John, those quakes out there have rattled a marble lose in your head bro. lol
But if ya must know....put Anthem on that list.
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Get the fook outta here for even asking that question.
John, those quakes out there have rattled a marble lose in your head bro. lol
But if ya must know....put Anthem on that list.
The wife is pushing the issue here. Another grand to replace the receiver that died after replacing a computer that died was the proverbial last straw. If the Pioneer could have waited another 6 months, I would have been ok. Now she sees my stuff as a waste of dollars that would be better spent elsewhere. Not up for sale yet, but will be so if someone wants to shoot me a pm on anything in my sig, we can talk.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Try to get a 5 channel AVR preamp, and a 5 channel amp. This should improve 2 channel playback since it has reduced circuitry.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
5 channels are typically small and have no pre-outs for the tubes.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
What?Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
If I am giving up a stack of Pass Labs for a receiver, it needs to be a damn good one. typically a 5 channel one these days does not have preouts for an external amp...The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Who wears the pants?Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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That’s why I said preamp, not an amp. You might be right about there being no 5 channel pre-outs, but there are 7 channel pre-outs. Get two separate amps for the L/R front, and a used 5 channel amp for the other channels. Good luck.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
You're sending your beloved Pass Labs stack down the road in favor of a pioneer avr? Am I really reading that right? Times must really be tough and you have my sympathy.
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Who wears the pants?
That appears to have been established.
(I keed, I keed.)
In all seriousness -- were it me, I would get a fine two channel thingy and - realizing this is heretical to the HT crowd - "listen" to my video sources in stereo. Really good stereo.
What's the matter with that?
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The wife's call Motor, and yes... the table and all the trimmings go too. The only thing not on her list are my amps.
Happy wife, happy life?The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Turntable too???2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
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Are you against buying used to replace your Pio?
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/ele/d/la-canada-flintridge-pioneer-elite-sc/6969929997.html
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/ele/d/el-monte-pioneer-elite-receiver/6970018397.html
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What took her so long? Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
John, we'll take up a collection and send you an ION in an unmarked box. You can hide it in your sock drawer...
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I think I might go for the Yamaha CX-A5100. I can add a 7 channel amp later, then when the heat is off, I will get the Pass XP-22 when I go back to work. The Oppo UDP 205 gets to stay as well.
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
If you part with 1.2tls what are you going to use with the in walls with the Yamaha?Home Theater
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I don't know yet... I will cross that bridge if I get there. Right now I am just laying low.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
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nooshinjohn wrote: »The wife's call Motor, and yes... the table and all the trimmings go too. The only thing not on her list are my amps.
Happy wife, happy life?
This ^^^^^^^^^^
I looked all over the place and noticed that there is nothing that rhymes with Husband.... Really not fair at all
But let me know if she changes her mind on the 205, I'm loving my new 4K and am in need of a player now LOLSo, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?
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I'm trying to figure out why you don't want a Pioneer? The Elite's are some of the very best sounding AVR's on the market man. Marantz receivers sound awesome. NAD might be where you want to be if 2 channel is more important. They sound like separatesDan
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Are you going to publish a PODCAST of the entire discussion with the wife?"Sometimes you have to look to the past to understand where you are going in the future"Anger is just anger. It isn’t good. It isn’t bad. It just is. What you do with it is what matters.
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nooshinjohn wrote: »The wife's call Motor, and yes... the table and all the trimmings go too. The only thing not on her list are my amps.
Happy wife, happy life?
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Obviously we play in different stratosphere’s John, but with 4 kids I have to keep my AV expenditures Reasonable. I recently switched from a marantz sr5007 and a parasound 1000a to a Cambridge azur 551r, and difference was very clear. The Cambridge sounds much closer to an integrated, very musical.
I would look into the newish Cambridge CXR200. I have been eyeing the 120 on eBay but haven’t pulled the trigger...Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
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Be sure to give Anthem some consideration.The best way to predict the future is to invent it.
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She owns the purse strings, while John rocks the apron strings.The best way to predict the future is to invent it.
It is imperative that we recognize that an opinion is not a fact. -
I am a little confused with what you need to replace. Do you have 2 systems? One for HT and one for 2 channel? Are they in the same room?
Selling premium gear you are happy with at 50+% off what you paid to buy a $2500 pre doesn't make sense to me. And I have a feeling your wife won't like the idea of a $2500 pre either. You would still need amps,speakers, and everything else so what are you planning on selling to offset the $2500 pre?
If everything is in the same room I would just use your Pass 3 channel pre and dump the surrounds for HT. Poor 2 channel performance vs no rears for HT? The choice should be obvious.
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I will also agree with the recommendations for Anthem.
