Pioneer Elite SC-65 UE22 message...

Any suggestions how to solve this one? I am in no spot at the moment to consider a replacement for it. Currently, all seems to function, but from what I see online, failure is a given and could happen at any time.
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds.

Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”

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  • EmlynEmlyn Posts: 2,509
    I have a model in the affected range too, but no issues with it. It's just a backup receiver now. Unfortunately there's no fix other than sending it in for a possible repair if it happens. Repairs may no longer be available. If there's no error code showing, Onkyo/Pioneer is unlikely to do anything with it. The problem is apparently caused by some prematurely aging flawed DSP chips from TI on the HDMI board for models produced from 2011 until early 2013. This thread on AVS Forum has the best information...

    https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/2066818-ue22-error-master-thread-pioneer-you-listening.html

    This in particular was posted a couple days ago...
    ///////////
    Updated September 2nd, 2019

    Onkyo support has now stated that repairs are only being done while parts inventory is still available. Certain models no longer have spare parts for repairs.

    As an alternative, a reduced priced trade in receiver is being offered depending on stock availability. This applies to both American and Canadian claim submissions.
    1. Polk LSiM707, 704C, 703; Dual SVS SB2000 subwoofers; Marantz SR7011 receiver; Parasound A23 amp; Oppo 205; Sony 65" 4K TV; FIOS; PS Audio Power Plant Premier; MIT S2 cables
    2. JM Labs Electra 920.1; Sonic Frontiers Line 3 Preamp; Classe Model 25 amp; Sony HAP-Z1ES; Oppo 105D; Music Hall MMF7 and Acoustech phono pre; PS Audio Power Director; MIT S1 Cables
    3. Polk LSiM703; Parasound JC2BP and A21; Sony 48" 4K TV; Wyred4Sound DAC 2; Oppo 203; Squeezebox Touch; MIT S3 cables
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,499
    I called Pioneer directly and was informed they no longer have parts... I qualify for 40% off a new unit to be purchased directly from them. I am not certain I want another Pioneer.

    What other suggestions do you guys have?
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  • EmlynEmlyn Posts: 2,509
    I consider Pioneer to be pretty much dead now as far as receivers go.

    Marantz has had a habit in recent years of only adding very minor updates to their receivers and slapping a new model number on, which means their perfectly fine line of receivers from the previous year are heavily discounted to clear out. That's what I have now. The SR6013 seems to on discounted sale now for $900 from $1500. That's because the SR6014 model is now out. All they seem to be doing these days with updates is enhancing built in streaming in the receivers.

    The only other brand I'd consider would be Yamaha Aventage, but those don't seem to get discounted as much. Maybe that's a good sign for them.
    1. Polk LSiM707, 704C, 703; Dual SVS SB2000 subwoofers; Marantz SR7011 receiver; Parasound A23 amp; Oppo 205; Sony 65" 4K TV; FIOS; PS Audio Power Plant Premier; MIT S2 cables
    2. JM Labs Electra 920.1; Sonic Frontiers Line 3 Preamp; Classe Model 25 amp; Sony HAP-Z1ES; Oppo 105D; Music Hall MMF7 and Acoustech phono pre; PS Audio Power Director; MIT S1 Cables
    3. Polk LSiM703; Parasound JC2BP and A21; Sony 48" 4K TV; Wyred4Sound DAC 2; Oppo 203; Squeezebox Touch; MIT S3 cables
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,499
    That's where my head is at too. I went to BB and looked at the new ones, and they are not what they used to be for sure. I am following the steps Onkyo has put in place, but I think I would rather get my SC65 fixed before getting something new. This way, when I want to get something else, I will have that ability rather than feeling like I got stuck with something I did not want in the first place.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,429
    Really odd synchronicity that this comes up here, now.
    Did you see this @nooshinjohn ?

    https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-pioneer-vsx-lx504-avr.8862/
    This is a review and very detailed measurements of the Pioneer VSX-LX504 Home Theater Audio & Video Receiver (AVR). It came about when my trusty Pioneer Elite SC-61 started to produce a UE22 Error. A bit searching showed this is a TI DSP that goes bad causing audio to mute and eventually go dead completely. Despite being acquired by Onkyo, Pioneer made good for a while by sending replacement DSP board to owners. Alas, the replacements are all gone and now Pioneer only offers a trade in. After filling out paperwork and such, they offered me a VSX-LX504 for around US $540 or so. I see it listed on Amazon for US $899 with a list price of US $999. The unit arrived yesterday and I was anxious to put it on the bench and see how it performs.

    From the outside, you would think nothing is changed in Pioneer AVRs as it looks almost identical to my SC-61, with the exception of a lot more labels stuck to the front panel...

    spoiler alert: the measurer crowd wasn't impressed. :|
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,499
    This is not going to end well for me it looks like. Nooshin is now adamant that I just sell everything... The computer crash got her thinking and now the Pioneer taking a crap pushed her over the edge. She wants it all gone... :'( :s :'(
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 3,734
    I've got 2 Pioneers, both SC55's. Fingers crossed.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,701
    This is not going to end well for me it looks like. Nooshin is now adamant that I just sell everything... The computer crash got her thinking and now the Pioneer taking a crap pushed her over the edge. She wants it all gone... :'( :s :'(

    I'm sorry man :'(
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,429
    This is not going to end well for me it looks like. Nooshin is now adamant that I just sell everything... The computer crash got her thinking and now the Pioneer taking a crap pushed her over the edge. She wants it all gone... :'( :s :'(

    Vacuum tubes, vinyl and high sensitivity loudspeakers -- they'll even survive the apocalypse.

    Several pieces here as old as (even older than) I. They work fine; parts are readily available and I've never seen an error code displayed by any of them. B)

    29114211432_48c2a56b97_b.jpgP1020749 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,429
    In seriousness, I am sympathetic/empathetic -- but, unfortunately, complicated stuff fails in colorful, and expensive, ways, and the current culture isn't interested in repair, since "technology" is viewed as relentlessly marching forward.

    Ironically, the future, which is half-way here, is everyone buying access to content and viewing/listening over 'rented' devices -- just like the phone company (and movie theaters) in the 1930s. Then, it was Western Electric; now it's Apple.

    The notion of individuals owning things outright (including transportation and even housing), I fear, will die out with our generation.

    Speaking of progress... . :/
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