"grounding driver baskets"
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So in my trolling the internet for random knowledge, I came across the mention of grounding a speaker basket to ground. In different places, one person suggested actually grounding the basket to a ground plug on a standard outlet, which, sounded a little crazy.
Another site said tying a basket into the ground of the speaker circuit had benefits.
The benefits supposedly was in shielding of the voice coil.
Honestly, this sounds a little out there to me but perhaps the Polk collective has direct experience ewith such endeavors.
Another site said tying a basket into the ground of the speaker circuit had benefits.
The benefits supposedly was in shielding of the voice coil.
Honestly, this sounds a little out there to me but perhaps the Polk collective has direct experience ewith such endeavors.
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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That's not how shielding works... So right off the bat, you're being fed BS. "Grounding " the basket might actually induce noise into the ground plane of the amp and I cannot see there being any benefit to that.
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That's not how shielding works... So right off the bat, you're being fed BS. "Grounding " the basket might actually induce noise into the ground plane of the amp and I cannot see there being any benefit to that.
I agree.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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That's not how shielding works... So right off the bat, you're being fed BS. "Grounding " the basket might actually induce noise into the ground plane of the amp and I cannot see there being any benefit to that.
You're essentially opening a back door for a whole lot of EMI and possibly RF noise that was never there.Home Theater/2 Channel:
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I can't think of a good reason to ground the basket, and (more than) a century of loudspeaker design* certainly hasn't standardized it as a 'best practice'
There's all kinds of crazy 5#!t on the internet, you know?
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* Peter Jensen and the "Magnificent Magnavox" - 1915
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That's what I thought, but sometimes when you read enough stupid you begin to question your intelligence haha- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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That's what I thought, but sometimes when you read enough stupid you begin to question your intelligence haha
Yeah, like chemtrails and scalar energy...
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Thats strange, I thought it was a pyramid- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Holy crap guys, I just found out that the world is FLAT!!!
With a marshmallow middle
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Holy crap guys, I just found out that the world is FLAT!!!Thats strange, I thought it was a pyramid
It's a darned good thing y'all've got a scientist here to set the record straight.
ahem.
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Use one drop of snake oil, works better!
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Okay, I admit it. I am getting old. What the heck is a speaker basket?Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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It's what supports the motor, cone and allows the driver to be mounted on the cabinet.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Okay. Is there a picture that shows this?Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
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Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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Yeah, type in speaker basket.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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This is NOT the speaker basket F1nut is talking about. But it is some good humor.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000MMVGZE
One could also mount a free air speaker in a wicker basket hanging from the ceiling to create a speaker in a basket in a basket. Would that be a speaker in a 2x basket or speaker in a basket² ? -
The basket is the frame.
cheap baskets.
010 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
DSC_3243 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
DSC_7032 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
stamped metal (steel, usually)
(amusingly, all three of the drivers shown above were/are pretty good to very good sounding ones, despite their cheesy construction values)
not so cheap baskets.
DSC_7165 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
later EV SP12B by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
DSC_5736 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
cast aluminum or alloy
(these are pretty good ones, too )
It actually does (or, at least, it can) matter -- a cheap, flimsy stamped basket is very resonant and doesn't provide stable alignment of the moving parts of a driver with the stationary parts. A cast basket is (should be!) much better in both respects.
Modern drivers often use plastic, or composite, baskets that are (or, at least, that can be) strong, light, and 'precise' in construction and alignment. Relatively cheap, too (the baskets, that is, not necessarily the finished drivers!)
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Never heard of such a ridiculous idea. Does this dude eat Tide pods too ?HT SYSTEM-
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Sounds like a ground loop hum waiting to happen.If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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Tannoy actually produced speakers with this built in
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Tannoy actually produced speakers with this built in
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mhardy6647 wrote: »
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txcoastal1 wrote: »mhardy6647 wrote: »
Would that be the likes of liquid smoke ?
I guess that would be what one use for British Style Barbecue.