Acoustic panels
joecoulson
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Have any of you made simple acoustic panels from wood frames, sponge or insulation guts and fabric outer? Thoughts on their performance vs professionally made?
Thanks all.
Thanks all.
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I made some for my son's studio. Use Rockwool for sound absorption. For covering, we just got some course weave material from the local fabric store. They work very well. Sometimes I borrow them to put on the walls beside my LSi15's and I'm amazed how the sound stage opens up.Stan
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I've made several. They work very well and aren't eyesores like traditional wall treatments which I ended up taking down in favor of them. I used 2'' square wood for the frame the size of the beach or bath towel I was using and used foam acoustic panels cut to size underneath.
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I bought mine from, https://www.soundproofcow.com/product-category/acoustic-panels/fabric-wrapped-acoustic-panels/
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If you search the title of your thread in the forum you’ll find a number of member threads on DIY and professional treatments. You can even see mine from 2013 when I made some ‘portable’ ones.
I have been very happy with my DIY panels.2 ChannelTurntable - VPI Classic 2/Ortofon 2M BlueAmplification - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II, Parks Audio Budgie PhonoSpeakers - GoldenEar Triton 17.2 Home TheaterDenon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Klipsch RP-280F's, Klipsch RP-450C, Polk FXi3's, Polk RC60i; Dual SVS PB 2000's; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"Man CaveTurntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado GoldAmplification - Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 DeluxeCD: Cambridge AudioSpeakers - Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary; LSiM 703; SDA 2A -
You have access to nice WAF fabrics so DIY can look great and match your decor. I just went with GIK myself. If you want art panels, you can upload a pic of yours or choose from many they offer.
I had recovered some GIK panels that had the base burlap type covering with Guilford of Maine acoustic fabric. Wife liked Silver Papier. I ordered GIK bass traps to match.
This is one source for GIK fabric.
https://acousticalwallfabric.com/guilford-fr701/acoustical-wall-fabric/acoustic-panels/guilford-of-maine/fabric/fr701-fabric-2/acoustic-fabrics/sound-absorbing-fabrics/acoustically-transparent-fabric/acoustic-insulation-materials/Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 * -
I made my panels using ATS Acoustics to obtain the Owens-Corning 703 Insulation and the Burlap Material. Cost effective and an easy DIY project.
https://www.atsacoustics.com
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Great info fellas, and the pics help tremendously
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If you are interested in DIY... At the time I built mine, this was the cheapest place I could find to order OC703. It's the shipping cost that gets you. Not sure if they are still the cheapest, I haven't price checked in a long time.
https://www.buyinsulationproductstore.com/
They also carry Guilford of Maine (acoustic transparent) fabric that comes in wider widths than most other fabrics. But I went the cheaper route and used fabric from Joann Fabrics. They have a coupon page:
https://www.joann.com/coupon/
You want breathable fabric (loose weave). Tight, none breathable fabric can, in theory, reflect highs instead of absorb them. A none-issue for bass traps. For best absorption you want an air gap between the insulation and wall.
Also keep an eye out on Craigslist. I purchased six 2" thick panels already built on CL and disassembled them to make 4" panels. Then later found two leftover full boxes from a project, of 4" thick OC703 from ATS that I bought for dirt cheap on CL. -
I can't remember who posted this, to give them credit.
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I want to do this but haven't figured out how to follow the Western motif of my living room yet.
https://www.atsacoustics.com/art-acoustic-panels.html
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I traded my SRS 2 for a complete acoustic treatment for my small humble room. Guy came up from Miami did several messument with some mic's and a PC. Placed 9 Owens Corning 1 inch glass fiber and two bass traps. I added 4 more corner bass traps later.
Before I made this deal I was going to go with Roxul. Here is one of the videos I liked for the DIY.
https://youtu.be/41liBn-QNW4
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I purchased 4 * 24x48x2 panels from acoustimac... Only 250 shipped with the executive cloth and cornings insulation
They are not as nicely built as GIK but just as effective. I am pleased with the results. I store mine when not using the 2 channel rig.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
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I'm still an NBP dealer but personally I've fallen out of love with the wall approach. It has its merits but the mobile treatments are more where I lean to now. The tuning abilities they allow for are impossible to beat.
Also, don't stick strictly to absorption. Diffraction is a powerful tool too - just as powerful as absorption and twice as good when used together properly.
You know those crystals and doodads people put on the wall? The reason they do anything for your system is they introduce new resonances into the air. They are quite elementary if you think about it and not the voodoo so many people claim them to be. How much they actually impact the sound depends on how strong the resonances are. Keep this in mind if you add something to the room.
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Acoustimac sales panels for that- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Here are a few different diffusion panels:
https://www.gikacoustics.com/product-category/diffusion-products/
This guy has several Youtube videos that has some good info. He has in the acoustic design business, so, there will also be some links to their products, but, does a good job on laying out some of the foundation of acoustical properties.:
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