Best way to punch holes in the floor?

afterburnt
afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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I am going to start wiring my new house for HT etc. I can barely get under the house to run cables any great ideas short of just drilling holes like a junction with speaker plugs? I hate to tear up brand new laminate the wrong way. I will probably die in there doing it. Maybe I should pay a pro?
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,019
    30-06 aught to do the trick. 9mm maybe if the laminate isn't too thick. :)

    Hole saw bro.....what else is there.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,016
    Pay.
    A.
    Pro.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,019
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Pay.
    A.
    Pro.

    I'm a professional.....holes is my specialty. :)

    I dunno man, one system, maybe you can do it yourself, but if you might want to wire up the whole house for control, maybe a pro would be the logical way to go.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    Yup. Money well spent. I used to make a killing on small crawlspace jobs. The old added trouble fee trick.
    These days.... I don't mind writing that check to get some other dingleberry to do it.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,016
    lightman1 wrote: »
    Yup. Money well spent. I used to make a killing on small crawlspace jobs. The old added trouble fee trick.
    These days.... I don't mind writing that check to get some other dingleberry to do it.

    says the pro.

    :)

    In all seriousness, I do agree.
    For several reasons, chief among them being.

    * I don't know about all y'all, but whenever I tackle an "easy job", I almost always seem to run into surprises. I don't like surprises (at least, not that kind).

    * If I pay someone to do it, and they eff it up, I can be mad at them. If I do it and eff it up, I can only be mad at myself.

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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
    tonyb wrote: »
    30-06 aught to do the trick. 9mm maybe if the laminate isn't too thick.

    I'm a professional.....holes is my specialty...

    Remind me to stay on your good side Mr Tony
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    For me time is a big factor. I have the hole saws, but most of my big projects are limited to early July when I take some time off. Otherwise, I have a handyman guy that'll do the job when I'm at work, so when I come home, it's a miracle, job complete! :smile:
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    Considering your first thought is go through the floor, I say stay away from the tools and hire a professional.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,019
    rpf65 wrote: »
    Considering your first thought is go through the floor, I say stay away from the tools and hire a professional.

    I dunno man, his first thought was to make a hole to hide stuff. My kind of people, I dig it.

    I would ask, why do you need to make a hole to begin with, surround speakers ? Under the house....is it on stilts ? Critters might chew up those cables so you'd have to put them in some sort of tubing.
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    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,204
    edited January 2019
    Nothing wrong with hiring a professional. They are trained in running wires and you'll be much happier in the long run if you don't know how to do it yourself. They will put plates on the walls where you want them, label each wire and run them correctly away from EMI and RF interference.
    Your home is worth a professional. Depending on where you live you could hire me.
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  • monepolk
    monepolk Posts: 1,146
    Why not go up instead. Run the cables in the walls dropping it down to their location. Of course being careful NOT to step through the ceiling.
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    When I ran my wires, I cut a hole in sheet rock close to the floor, drilled a hole to feed wire under the house, and another smalle hole to pull wire to where the speakers mount.

    No laminate flooring between walls.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,016
    tonyb wrote: »
    rpf65 wrote: »
    Considering your first thought is go through the floor, I say stay away from the tools and hire a professional.

    I dunno man, his first thought was to make a hole to hide stuff. My kind of people, I dig it.
    ...

    [emphasis added]

    hmmm -- I see what you did, there.

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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    @mantis where you is?

    @tonyb all of my romex is exposed and there has been no critter issue.

    @monepolk no attic.

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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,204
    I live in Lower Bucks county Pa. I'm just above Philadelphia . Surround me is Levitown, Bristol, Yardley, New Hope , Newtown. I'm 5 minutes from Burlington NJ as I live pretty close to the Bridge.
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  • monepolk
    monepolk Posts: 1,146
    afterburnt wrote: »

    @monepolk no attic.

    Then this.
    rpf65 wrote: »
    When I ran my wires, I cut a hole in sheet rock close to the floor, drilled a hole to feed wire under the house, and another smaller hole to pull wire to where the speakers mount.

    No laminate flooring between walls.

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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    mantis wrote: »
    I live in Lower Bucks county Pa. I'm just above Philadelphia . Surround me is Levitown, Bristol, Yardley, New Hope , Newtown. I'm 5 minutes from Burlington NJ as I live pretty close to the Bridge.

    I live in Lower Slobbovia CA so that's out unless you are comming here for some reason lol
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  • F1nut
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  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,465
    I'd hire a pro, let them get dirty.

    Doing it yourself is not hard just time consuming. Cut a hole in the sheet rock and drill a hole down. You will need an attachment for your drill for the 90.
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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 2,607
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    * If I pay someone to do it, and they eff it up, she will be mad at them. If I do it and eff it up, She WILL be mad at ME.

    Fixed it for my house...
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,016
    daddyjt wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    * If I pay someone to do it, and they eff it up, she will be mad at them. If I do it and eff it up, She WILL be mad at ME.

    Fixed it for my house...

    Yeah, here, too -- pretty much.
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Yall are right I have no business cheaping out and tearing up my house.
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