one man garbage other men treasure - WOW!

corticocortico Posts: 433
edited January 8 in 2 Channel Audio
Compared to most of you guys balls deep into the rabbit hole, I am perfectly aware that I am just skimming the surface.

I have been into vintage gear for too long, I own and restores a few Marantz amps from the 70's and really like their sound. Lately, I got myself interested in less older gear and got older Parasound HCA 1200II power amp and a PHP850 pre.

2 weeks later I got the PLP2000 pre, still ancient and outdated for most... but to me, this was like a revelation moment... my Marantz are blown away from the map!

Pretty cool and well-built and great sounding stuff, the specs are amazing and that preamp is an authentic work of art!

WOW!!!

"If it measures good and sounds bad, -- it is bad. If it sounds good and measures bad, -- you've measured the wrong thing." Daniel Von Recklinghausen

Comments

  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,682
    Off topic: What building is that in your avatar? It appears to be between Park Avenue and Madison Avenue, so it can't be Rockefeller Center as many would assume. My best guess would be "The Lincoln Building" A.K.A. "One Grand Central Place".
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,871
    Can you show us some pictures?
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • msgmsg Posts: 4,378
    Do you mean the PLD 2000?

    We've talked about the older Parasound D/ACs, and I remember you modding the big brother, I think, to the D/AC-800 I use in a system. I'm with you on some of the older gear, too. I was reminded recently to not get too caught up in the gear, and remember to listen to the music. Still can't help enjoying the gear, too :)
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  • verbverb Posts: 4,490
    Always liked the vintage Parasound stuff. Congrats!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Rega RP1 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs DAC, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1 transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Project BoxE Bluetooth Streamer, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • corticocortico Posts: 433
    edited January 8
    Viking64 wrote: »
    Off topic: What building is that in your avatar? It appears to be between Park Avenue and Madison Avenue, so it can't be Rockefeller Center as many would assume. My best guess would be "The Lincoln Building" A.K.A. "One Grand Central Place".


    Hey Viking64, keen eye! That shot was taken at 432 Park, amazing building. I had a job going on the top of that building...

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    "If it measures good and sounds bad, -- it is bad. If it sounds good and measures bad, -- you've measured the wrong thing." Daniel Von Recklinghausen
  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,035
    Sweet view. I might be nervous getting on that ladder though.
  • msgmsg Posts: 4,378
    Were you walking steel?!?
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  • corticocortico Posts: 433
    msg wrote: »
    Do you mean the PLD 2000?

    We've talked about the older Parasound D/ACs, and I remember you modding the big brother, I think, to the D/AC-800 I use in a system. I'm with you on some of the older gear, too. I was reminded recently to not get too caught up in the gear, and remember to listen to the music. Still can't help enjoying the gear, too :)

    Correct, PLD 2000 Line drive solid state preamp. I remember that conversation, I have bought and sold and regret a few different Parasound DAcs the 800, the 1100 and the 1600. They're all great, currently I have the 1100. I remember doing the upgrade that sold by the German folks but liked the sound stock better....

    Here is a not updated pic, I will take a few more showing the PLD 2000 pre, and a pic I found the picture below online, looks really nice.

    Yes, in the end is music what matters, important to keep that in mind!
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    "If it measures good and sounds bad, -- it is bad. If it sounds good and measures bad, -- you've measured the wrong thing." Daniel Von Recklinghausen
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,682
    cortico wrote: »
    Hey Viking64, keen eye! That shot was taken at 432 Park, amazing building. I had a job going on the top of that building...

    Beautiful! I guess the B & W photo threw me time-wise. HAHAHAHA

    I've read a few weeks ago that the apartments in the upper half of that building go for close to 100 million each! :o

    I see that building every day. Check out my Google home page. :p

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,682
    msg wrote: »
    Were you walking steel?!?

    That's what I thought at first. It looks like baker staging/scaoffolding. I believe those windows go floor to ceiling. You can tell in the pic with the ladder that it was taken in an enclosed building.

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  • corticocortico Posts: 433
    haha, that's exactly it. Standing on a scaffold in front of it's massive 10'x10' windowsrlht70j4xufn.jpg
    "If it measures good and sounds bad, -- it is bad. If it sounds good and measures bad, -- you've measured the wrong thing." Daniel Von Recklinghausen
  • skrolskrol Posts: 2,688
    I got into the older Parasound gear about 5 years ago. I started with an HCA-800ii amp and CPT-600 pre-amp tuner. I reconditioned them with new caps and made some other upgrades. It has a sweet sound and nice dark noise floor. Then I found a broken HCA-1000A that I repaired, made some upgrades and tuning with the help of Mr John Curl over on DIYAUDIO.COM. Then I picked up a PLD-1100 and TDQ-1600. It is every bit as sweet as the previous but can better drive my LSi-15's. I eventually want to upgrade to an HCA-1200ii or HCA-1500.

    The Parasound company is very cool. If you email them, you will likely get a response from Richard Schram who is the president and founder of the company. I'm hooked on Parasound now.
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i

    HT:
    Denon AVR-888, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW10, Marantz UD5005, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, TSi100; Pioneer: CT-6R, PL-530; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, Polk: RM7, Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii
  • corticocortico Posts: 433
    skrol wrote: »
    I got into the older Parasound gear about 5 years ago. I started with an HCA-800ii amp and CPT-600 pre-amp tuner. I reconditioned them with new caps and made some other upgrades. It has a sweet sound and nice dark noise floor. Then I found a broken HCA-1000A that I repaired, made some upgrades and tuning with the help of Mr John Curl over on DIYAUDIO.COM. Then I picked up a PLD-1100 and TDQ-1600. It is every bit as sweet as the previous but can better drive my LSi-15's. I eventually want to upgrade to an HCA-1200ii or HCA-1500.

    The Parasound company is very cool. If you email them, you will likely get a response from Richard Schram who is the president and founder of the company. I'm hooked on Parasound now.

    Hey skrol, i remember your tread, it’s pretty cool that John Curl engages with people and gives guidance on that forum, I have followed s few treads.

    The 1200ii sounds very nice, I am willing to step up to the 2200ii when the right deal comes across.


    "If it measures good and sounds bad, -- it is bad. If it sounds good and measures bad, -- you've measured the wrong thing." Daniel Von Recklinghausen
  • oldrockeroldrocker Posts: 2,021
    ^^

    First Parasound piece my wife got me, I had to call them with a question.

    That Richard guy answered and was the nicest guy. Told me if I needed any additional help, don't hesitate to call...
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 2,180
    I used to sell Parasound and my first surround pre/pro was a Parasound. I also had one of their phono preamps hooked into that pre/pro.
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Meridian 519 Dolby AC-3 RF Demodulator,Oppo Digital UDP-205,TiVo Bolt VOX,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters, upgraded with Larry's rings, black hole5,an Avel-Lindberg 1000VA isolation transformer, VR3 customer crossovers and internal wiring),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitors,Polk PSW150(4)Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-7000,Monster AVS-2000, PowerVarious Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 2,180
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    AVC-2500u
    This was a heckuva good surround sound preamp/processor!
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Meridian 519 Dolby AC-3 RF Demodulator,Oppo Digital UDP-205,TiVo Bolt VOX,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters, upgraded with Larry's rings, black hole5,an Avel-Lindberg 1000VA isolation transformer, VR3 customer crossovers and internal wiring),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitors,Polk PSW150(4)Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-7000,Monster AVS-2000, PowerVarious Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • skrolskrol Posts: 2,688
    Forgot about the Parasound phono pre-amp. It was my first external phono pre and I was amazed at the difference, even compared to my Marantz integrated amp phono stage.
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i

    HT:
    Denon AVR-888, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW10, Marantz UD5005, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, TSi100; Pioneer: CT-6R, PL-530; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, Polk: RM7, Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii
  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 2,180
    I had to get the external phono preamp, because the AVC-2500 doesn't have one. I finally sold it all when I decided to get an Integra DTC 9.8 and wanted the newer lossless surround codecs like DTS HD-MA and Dolby True HD. As well as SACD DSD decoding.
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Meridian 519 Dolby AC-3 RF Demodulator,Oppo Digital UDP-205,TiVo Bolt VOX,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters, upgraded with Larry's rings, black hole5,an Avel-Lindberg 1000VA isolation transformer, VR3 customer crossovers and internal wiring),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitors,Polk PSW150(4)Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-7000,Monster AVS-2000, PowerVarious Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 18,506
    Parasound offers stellar equipment at good prices. Build quality is excellent, and I haven't been disappointed in any Para stuff I have owned. I just recently replaced my 15 year old HCA-1500A with the A21 amplifier.
    Source: Oppo BDP-103/USB HDD/flac | Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2L | Power Amp: Parasound Halo A21 | Speakers: PSB Imagine T2 | Cables: Kimber Hero XLR; Kimber 8VS Bi-Wire; Belden 1694A Dig Coax | AC Power: Panamax M5300-PM
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,503
    That A21 is a beauty
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with upgrades, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ XLR's and IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
  • corticocortico Posts: 433
    edited January 14
    Today, I gave a serious listening to the PLD2000, wow!!! Amazing, this thing is a masterpiece!

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    "If it measures good and sounds bad, -- it is bad. If it sounds good and measures bad, -- you've measured the wrong thing." Daniel Von Recklinghausen
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