True story: How I brought up the idea of the subwoofer purchase to my wife
Joey_V
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So, it was decided that after a year of planning and research that I would be buying a subwoofer sometime over the next few months.
I asked my wife for her approval.
She asked, “what are you looking at?”
Showed her the picture (see below). “The top one.”
“That looks expensive. How much?”
“It costs enough that it’s gonna hurt,” I replied.
“$20,000?” she asked.
“What?? No subwoofer costs $20,000,” I jumped.
“So how much?”
“$5-6 depending on the deal I get,” I answered.
“Good. I’m glad you didn’t say $50,” she concluded.
I guess that means I got approval...??
I asked my wife for her approval.
She asked, “what are you looking at?”
Showed her the picture (see below). “The top one.”
“That looks expensive. How much?”
“It costs enough that it’s gonna hurt,” I replied.
“$20,000?” she asked.
“What?? No subwoofer costs $20,000,” I jumped.
“So how much?”
“$5-6 depending on the deal I get,” I answered.
“Good. I’m glad you didn’t say $50,” she concluded.
I guess that means I got approval...??
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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There are definitely 20k subs but that one looks nice, congrats- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Pretty pi** poor negotiation skills.
You had the opportunity to buy four, but settled on one.
Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!! -
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I realize that the law of diminishing returns applies to all audio purchases, but can you say what improvement this will yield over say, TWO svs SB16-ultras? $3800 shipped for both? 45 return policy, I think I would at least try it and see...Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
Beautiful sub.
Btw, almost any WAF will go up if you show her this as an option you have ruled out:
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You're positive your wife is OK with this?
This guy thought he had the green light too.
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I guess this is why widows put really cheap prices on the stereo stuff us men leave behind.
Can we imagine getting that ReL sub for $5 at a yard sale many years from now?
You betcha.
I've read and heard Rel subs are truly great subs. Nice choice!Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them. -
I woulda went for a pair of JL Gothams but that's just me...and it's also $32k...
Congrats on the new sub.
Bear in mind though that JTR will work with Jim Salk to finish any of their subs in any of Jim's veneers."Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
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I realize that the law of diminishing returns applies to all audio purchases, but can you say what improvement this will yield over say, TWO svs SB16-ultras? $3800 shipped for both? 45 return policy, I think I would at least try it and see...
The SVS does not have high level connections because they are first and foremost an HT oriented business and for HT their subs are at or near the top. I asked them why they didn't offer high level connections. I was told because there's no difference between sending the signal from the pre amp or amp. Wrong!!!Political Correctness'.........defined
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Pretty pi** poor negotiation skills.
You had the opportunity to buy four, but settled on one.
Well.... cr4p....Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
I woulda went for a pair of JL Gothams but that's just me...and it's also $32k...
Congrats on the new sub.
Bear in mind though that JTR will work with Jim Salk to finish any of their subs in any of Jim's veneers.
I could get Gothams, used for v2 are about 8 each. The 2nd problem is lifting them. They are 370lb each.
No used Rel 25 thus far. Would like dealer support too if I’m dropping this coin.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
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^^^ lol
If only that were trueMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
I've been saving that for when you bought something again! It's from a few months back. Don't be hatin, I come in peace!
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I took a 18 mo break!
I’ll upload the reason why.I've been saving that for when you bought something again! It's from a few months back. Don't be hatin, I come in peace!
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I held up my end of the bargain...Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Love the witness.
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That is so cool!!!!
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Well done Joey, I like a man who keeps his word and has self discipline! Enjoy your new sub!Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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Self-discipline?!? His four year old has to enforce the contract in writing!!! Ha! The very definition of heteronomy rather than autonomy - discipline by an outside force.Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
He could have easily broken that agreement and bought something. The fact that he kept his word, and the agreement show that he values his FAMILY more than his autonomy.
Which is how it should be since he is married, and has far more important responsibilities than buying more audio gear!Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
LOL! Priceless!
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It was pretty refreshing and cleansing not buying anything and just enjoying. I felt like I purged audiogon and dealers... took a step back and looked at the big picture.
One of the best things I did.
Instead, I took my speaker money and gave it all back to my kids.
Even though I have the green light to go back into the fold, I’m not even jumping at the bit to do so.
Cathy is right - I kept my word and I’m actually proud of that. My friends didn’t think I could last nor did my wife. So I took it as a challenge and I drew up the contract and signed it so it was on paper. I had my little girl Emma sign it not so I would be reminded why it was important to keep my word, but to teach her that self indulgence is not the goal of life.
At first I must say it was difficult as I was used to buying almost whatever I wanted. But over time it became easier.
Right now while I could use the Rel 25 subwoofers, I think I’ll sit on it a little bit and make sure it’s what I really want and that it’s worth the cash output.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
With your disposable income this hobby can become more about equipment than music. Which would actually be great is these were classic collectible cars that appreciate in value. However, we know that's not the case.
At your level there's something about that Rel No. 25 that is calling your name. Maybe you see it as the "I've arrived" holy grail of bass in performance, aesthetics and stature. However, I'm sure performance can be had that matches or exceeds it for less money. Hell, one could probably buy a couple of internet direct subs and pay to have the company President set them up in home for less than one of the No. 25's.
Whatever route you take get back to the music! Don't forget the music! Listen at home and get out and listen to live music!2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2 -
I agree WLD
I think I have wanted one for so long.
I think... no I know the performance can be beat with F18 stack.
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It looks like you already own a ReL sub by your Avatar picture. Am I correct?Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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Me thinks the gear in the avatar is LONG gone...Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
Those are end game speakers and sub for music to me.Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
