Parasound P6 VS PS Audio Stellar Gain Pre/DAC

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,691
    I suppose I can always utilize their trade-up program and get the monoblocks if I dig the sound of the S300!
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 354
    Check out Underwood Hifi (http://underwoodhifi.com)....sells all things PSA.

    I started w/a PSA Directstream DAC (open box) from Musicdirect. Loved it and decided I wanted the PSA BHK Signature Pre and BHK-250 to go with it after 2 years of love with the DSD.

    Purchased the BHK gear in Nov through Underwood at a significant reduction compared to direct from PS Audio. Didn't need to get rid of my extra gear on trade-in...thousands below MSRP. Don't have the same return policy as direct from PSA but I knew it'd be staying. I have well over 200 hours on the BHK's and they get better every day.

    Had an issue w/the 250 when it arrived (assumed, damaged in-transit). Worked direct w/PSA and they sent a replacement directly to me within a week. Didn't even have to contact Underwood.

    Have become quite a PSA fanboy....but believe they deliver w/their products.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,802
    Congrats Drew. I’m sure you’ll be very happy with the S300 and I’m sure you’ll love the pre. It’s really good gear.
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,691
    That BHK Signature Preamp is drool worthy.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • DaveHoDaveHo Posts: 2,113
    You guys are killing me. Is Wally still selling the Stellar GainCell Pre @ $1079? If so, I think I'm going to bite & move the Parasound P5 on down the road.
  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 18,692
    When I purchased 2 weeks ago, he said he had 1 silver one left at $1199.00 delivered. But it never hurts to check...
    Source: Oppo BDP-103/USB HDD/flac | Preamp/DAC: PS Audio Stellar Gain Cell | Power Amp: Parasound Halo A21 | Speakers: PSB Imagine T2 | Cables: Kimber Hero XLR; Kimber 8VS Bi-Wire; Belden 1694A Dig Coax | AC Power: Panamax M5300-PM
  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 354
    edited January 31
    DaveHo wrote: »
    ...Wally still selling the Stellar GainCell Pre @ $1079?

    As of 28 Jan mailing list, "$1,199.00 delivered Only 4 to sell at this deal". When I called about an advertised "photo shoot" open box for the BHK's he told me they were BNIB. Had the original PSA tape and never opened when I received them.

    The email ads continued to advertise photo shoot for weeks if not months. Just a guess but I believe he uses it as a bit of a hook to advertise such low prices. He does wheel and deal.
    Clipdat wrote: »
    That BHK Signature Preamp is drool worthy.

    I have 2 Parasound HCA-1500A amps that Big Sky Audio upgraded in 2012. With one of them I've been running an Oppo BDP-105 as a pre in my HT and been very happy. Also, the PSA DSD was directly feeding the other 1500. Have an Adcom GFP-750 pre, a great pre mind you, but the DSD always sounded better direct as a digital pre.

    When researching the BHK pre and 250 the one constant I read was if you're on the fence get the pre first. It is phenomenal. I've wanted to switch back and forth between the DSD into the 250 but it's such a PITA to move my rack....and the current configuration sounds so good. Also, what I've read about the DS Jr and Stellar pieces leads me to believe they are great bang for the buck.

    I really love my Parasound 1500s and they'll never leave my house but the PSA is great value for the money. Granted, it's a significant cost over my normal used gear habit but I plan to have the PSA's for a long time. I look at PSA as the Polk of mid to high end gear. PSA competes on a level costing significantly more money, IMHO.
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  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 566
    And don't forget about their power products as well - AC power cords, conditioners, etc. I picked-up a used PowerPlay IPC-9000 a while ago, which is an older generation power conditioner, and I like it a lot. PSA will still service older gear, if needed. I like the fact that they have choices to fit various budgets.
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 18,692
    edited January 31
    They showed 4 on the website when I purchased too, but on the phone he said 2. One black, one silver. Of course I snatched the black one. Mine was factory sealed as well. The say "open box" to get around selling below MSRP agreements.
    Source: Oppo BDP-103/USB HDD/flac | Preamp/DAC: PS Audio Stellar Gain Cell | Power Amp: Parasound Halo A21 | Speakers: PSB Imagine T2 | Cables: Kimber Hero XLR; Kimber 8VS Bi-Wire; Belden 1694A Dig Coax | AC Power: Panamax M5300-PM
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,691
    I'm actually very excited to potentially shatter my preconceived notions of Class D inferiority!
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 18,692
    I can't speak to the class D part, but the pre has some muscle. Enjoy.
    Source: Oppo BDP-103/USB HDD/flac | Preamp/DAC: PS Audio Stellar Gain Cell | Power Amp: Parasound Halo A21 | Speakers: PSB Imagine T2 | Cables: Kimber Hero XLR; Kimber 8VS Bi-Wire; Belden 1694A Dig Coax | AC Power: Panamax M5300-PM
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,691
    Planning on trying it with the Bryston amp first so I can hopefully hear what just the preamp brings to the table, and then I will swap in the S300.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 566
    Clipdat wrote: »
    I'm actually very excited to potentially shatter my preconceived notions of Class D inferiority!
    And therein lies the rub. Just as we have preconceived notions about more expensive components or cables sounding better, there is a preconceived notion out there that class D sounds inferior. I'll be interested to see what you think!

    Full disclosure: not long after getting my S300, I stumbled across a Symphonic Line power amp that I couldn't resist, and I'm still using it at the moment...mainly because it's so friggin' heavy that I don't want to move it, but also because it acts a space heater in these cold winter months :D
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,691
    That's cool. If anything, it'll be an even more eye opening experience then when you go back the S300 again.

    How many hours total did you log on the S300 so far?
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 566
    Looking back at my original PSA SG thread, https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/179314/ps-audio-stellar-analog-cell-amp-versus/p1 I purchased the set in June of last year, and then got the Symphonic Line amp in October, so I probably had a solid three months with only the S300. Of course there was a little comparison period with my McCormack in June, and then more comparison with the Symphonic Line in October, but in between, it was all the S300.

    I was just about to say I should do another swap this weekend, but I've recently put a 'new' turntable in the mix, so I need to keep my baseline intact with the other gear for now while I evaluate the new tt.
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,802
    What TT did you get?
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 566
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    joecoulson wrote: »
    What TT did you get?
    A sort of rare Logic DM-101 here: https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/185076/logic-dm-101-turntable#latest I just added some new pics B)
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,691
    Stellar preamp gets here Wednesday.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,802
    Sweet!
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
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