Pioneer SX-1250

Last week I found out a buddy at work has a vintage Pioneer SX-1250.

He purchased it new, and it has been in storage for a few years.

I told him I am interested in buying it, so he is bringing it to work this week for me to check out.

A quick google search suggests that this is a highly sought after model.

Anybody want to share knowledge of this bad boy? I have had many vintage stereos, but never a Pioneer.
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  • ConradiclesConradicles Posts: 5,766
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,926
    Decent enough; the 1250 if memory serves has dual power supplies with toroidal PTs.

    Still, it's an awful lot of stuff to be packed into one box (albeit a large, heavy one) -- and the sound of the Pioneer receivers was always a bit unrefined to me (especially the big ones). Personally, I (far) prefer the Yamahas of the era, although I will admit that the Pioneers looked better inside.

    Other than the wow factor (aesthetically), an integrated amp of the same era will provide (considerably) more bang per buck invested (then or now).

    16335232805_ea781758f6_b.jpgSemi-monstrous 1970s soiled state receivers by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    That's a 1050, not a 1250; biggest Pioneer I've got (not being much of a fan) -- not in the same league in terms of audio quality as the CR-2020 sitting next to it, though.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,926
    Oh, should be plenty of info (including catalog scans) at www.hifiengine.com
  • ConradiclesConradicles Posts: 5,766
    Unit is clean. Another co-worker inspected and cleaned all knobs and switches. He said it was really clean considering the age. All lights work. Old school so cool!
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,926
    edited July 2018
    Unit is clean. Another co-worker inspected and cleaned all knobs and switches. He said it was really clean considering the age. All lights work. Old school so cool!

    Has it been rehabilitated yet? It will need attention to, at least, its electrolytic capacitors. They're not necessarily all bad, but many will be. Shotgun replacement is not necessarily indicated (indeed, don't let any one mess with the tuned circuits unless he or she really, really knows what he/she is doing), but the ESR of any that are in the signal path, at the least, should be checked. Main P/S filter capacitors get the crud beat out of them and are at odds >>50/50 as candidates for replacement, if not done already.


    Does the SX-1250 use wirewrap connections? If so -- they're notorious for causing [i[issues[/i] after four decades :| and will also likely need attention.

    The cost of rehab won't be insubstantial (even if one DIYs).
    I don't want to discourage the OP, but he should also go into this with realistic expectations.


  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,374
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Does the SX-1250 use wirewrap connections? If so -- they're notorious for causing [i[issues[/i] after four decades :| and will also likely need attention.

    What kind of problems? My H/K has wire wraps, they could be the cause for concern.
    Micah

    Main system: Technics SL3200, Shure M97xE, Lafayette LR1100 for tuner, Hagerman Audio Labs Bugle 2 phono stage, NAD C352 integrated, Boston Acoustics VR 2, Boston PV500, generic ICs, and BJC Belden speaker cables.

    Desktop: Dell Precision 690 running iTunes, Yamaha RX-v665, Monitor Audio R90s, Velodyne VA-907, generic ICs and speaker cables.
    I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
  • ConradiclesConradicles Posts: 5,766
    Well, this SX-1250 is now in my possession...pictures coming soon... B)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,926
    'grats! :)

    Here's hopin' you pop the top & show us the innards, too!
    (but I certainly understand if you're not the top poppin' kind of fellow -- I realize that some folks aren't)
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 5,690
    frikken cool beans.... congrats ... vintage stuff rocks...the stuff that is going on 40 will last another forty if you give it some TLC.... Tender Loving Cash!
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  • ConradiclesConradicles Posts: 5,766
    This is huge!
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  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 5,690
    edited July 2018
    She's a BEAUTY!! Looks like new... Let us know your impressions from listening too.
    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7702 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo BDP-103D | Sony PS4 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 64" Plasma | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7004 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub |Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | Marantz SA8004 SACD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | HP Elite Slice PC | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4 Pro

    Patio Polk Atrium 8's |Marantz 2252B |

    Office Bluesound Node2 | Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | Marantz 2385 |

    Bedroom Peactree Nova 125SE | Focal 905's | Bluesound Node | SVS SB2000 Sub

    Garage Yamaha R-N303BL | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP2K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's |
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,212
    Can we take a minute and talk about the massive surround on the sub? Holy cow the excursion!
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • ConradiclesConradicles Posts: 5,766
    That 18" sealed sub is very nice.
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 5,690
    They even used to put power outlets on the back of the receiver... 1 switched and 1 un-switched
    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7702 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo BDP-103D | Sony PS4 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 64" Plasma | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7004 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub |Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | Marantz SA8004 SACD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | HP Elite Slice PC | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4 Pro

    Patio Polk Atrium 8's |Marantz 2252B |

    Office Bluesound Node2 | Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | Marantz 2385 |

    Bedroom Peactree Nova 125SE | Focal 905's | Bluesound Node | SVS SB2000 Sub

    Garage Yamaha R-N303BL | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP2K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's |
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,926
    lightman1 wrote: »
    Knobs, buttons , switches, dials, meters....!!!!
    What's not to like? Am I right?

    No power meters, though. What was Pioneer thinking?

    ;)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 19,926
    It does look great. :)
    Pioneer got that part very right -- pretty much the whole industry copied the look of the SX-*50 line after it was introduced.

    Blackout dials became passe pretty much passé overnight :p

  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,212
    There's something to be said for wood enclosures and even wood side panels. Love love love. <3
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,374
    Wow. Just wow. Beautiful.
    Good luck on the restoration!
    Micah

    Main system: Technics SL3200, Shure M97xE, Lafayette LR1100 for tuner, Hagerman Audio Labs Bugle 2 phono stage, NAD C352 integrated, Boston Acoustics VR 2, Boston PV500, generic ICs, and BJC Belden speaker cables.

    Desktop: Dell Precision 690 running iTunes, Yamaha RX-v665, Monitor Audio R90s, Velodyne VA-907, generic ICs and speaker cables.
    I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,795
    I had one. Sold it for 180.00 20 years ago. :# :s :'(
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • ConradiclesConradicles Posts: 5,766
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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,795
    I love the solid wood corner posts! Nice touch!

    I love my little pioneer SX-550 I have now. It looks new like yours does.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • ConradiclesConradicles Posts: 5,766
    It needs a good cleaning...I will post pictures of the innards when I get her cleaned up...
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