Finally stepped up the sub's
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Oh yeah parents over.... When I was a kid my dad told me to turn it down. "When you grow up and get your own house you can play it as loud as you want". Well dear old dad I'm grown and I will play it as loud as I want.
For HOA, it takes a neighbors to complain about noise. None of my neighbors complain. well one did once, HOA said another neighbor needs to complain, none did.When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
Oh yeah parents over.... When I was a kid my dad told me to turn it down. "When you grow up and get your own house you can play it as loud as you want". Well dear old dad I'm grown and I will play it as loud as I want.
For HOA, it takes a neighbors to complain about noise. None of my neighbors complain. well one did once, HOA said another neighbor needs to complain, none did.
My neighbor just shows up..."What you watching"
He is retired and his wife gets so pissed with me because he just disappears.
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Where did you end up setting the crossover for the S60s? -
LMAO she got no insurance on him!Oh yeah parents over.... When I was a kid my dad told me to turn it down. "When you grow up and get your own house you can play it as loud as you want". Well dear old dad I'm grown and I will play it as loud as I want.
For HOA, it takes a neighbors to complain about noise. None of my neighbors complain. well one did once, HOA said another neighbor needs to complain, none did.
My neighbor just shows up..."What you watching"
He is retired and his wife gets so pissed with me because he just disappears. -
jchandler3 wrote: »@danzilla31
Where did you end up setting the crossover for the S60s?
Hey jchandler3 after playing around I liked 50 Hz for the 60's and the subs crossed over at 80hz. I don't know why maybe it's my room acoustics the way the S60's are built or a little of both but they sound the best at that crossover setting. I suspect a lot of it is to do with the S60's those are powerful speakers that can go DEEEEP. I just feel if I put em at 80hz there is a lot of midrange and upper bass they miss out on at the 50 to 80 Hz range that they want to play with they're is just a thinness to the sound that is subtle but definitely they're. But the 60's play deep and sound amazing without subwoofers. So handling 50hz is no problem for them.
When I spoke to SVS customer service they also confirmed this. They said the PB 2000's would work well with a speaker like the S60 at that crossover point. They also helped me to not overdial the amps on the sub's cuz I kept wanting to push em a little too hot. But they confirmed my suspicion that I will eventually need to upgrade. And that's why I was wanting to push the amps too hot. The PB 2000's sound great but it's a big big open living area floor plan and to get perfect bass I'm gonna hafta journey a little farther down the rabbit hole lol. The PB 12 plus dual subs sounds like where I'm heading next year when I trade up. By the way like others have mentioned SVS customer service is fantastic. They were extremely helpful in helping me get them set up correctly. -
In all speakers, IMHO you need to find where your speakers begin drop off. If their drop off point beginning at 50hz the set the subs at 50-60...etc especially for music as you want that blend.
Now for HT you come up, especially for those big boom movies, set to low and you'll blow something on a heavy bass drop curve.2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
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My S60's are crossed over @ 60HZ and do just nicely. I do have them set to large but Marantz still allows crossover. When I set them to small my system sounds hollow, so large and in charge it is.
As for more sub, oh yeah. I went from a HSU VTF2-MK2 (12" 250 watt) to a VTF3-MK5 (15" 600 watt). Oh yes there is a ton of bass when called for.When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
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txcoastal1 wrote: »In all speakers, IMHO you need to find where your speakers begin drop off. If their drop off point beginning at 50hz the set the subs at 50-60...etc especially for music as you want that blend.
Now for HT you come up, especially for those big boom movies, set to low and you'll blow something on a heavy bass drop curve.
Yeah it's weird usually in all systems I've had they sound best at 80hz but 50 Hz for these it is in home theater and music. I'm really not to worried about blowing anything tho those S60's are powerful and they're rated to 26hz and I think they drop off well below 40hz I don't think the 26hz is the +- 3db standard but I bet you 30 or 32 Hz is about right. So they can go low and handle low and do it with a lotta power. For some weird reason 50 Hz is what's working so I'm going with it for now. Maybe that's why they sound too thin when I set the crossover at 80hz for movies. Like you said they're drop off point may be lower then some speakers I've had. That's a good point to look into thanks for the info. -
My S60's are crossed over @ 60HZ and do just nicely. I do have them set to large but Marantz still allows crossover. When I set them to small my system sounds hollow, so large and in charge it is.
As for more sub, oh yeah. I went from a HSU VTF2-MK2 (12" 250 watt) to a VTF3-MK5 (15" 600 watt). Oh yes there is a ton of bass when called for.
Yeah on my onkyo they allow the speakers to be large and the crossovers can be adjusted. Just like you my S60's seem to do nicely at that 50 or 60 Hz crossover point -
Good luck w/that!HOAs can go # themselves... Nobody is going to tell me what I can and can't do on MY property.
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8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
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New word for the Bass lover’s vocabulary!Those SVS subs will rummemble your room nice.
Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
...HT too!Welcome to the real world of home audio
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Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
UNECESSARY Evil. We survived our HOA horror. You can have ‘em!danzilla31 wrote: »
They're kind off a necessary evil but still evil! Lol
Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
my kids, on the occasion I get carried away, complain to me. More often their personal devices are too load. You know the kind you can listen to ANYWHERE but they chose the HT/living room!Oh yeah parents over.... When I was a kid my dad told me to turn it down. "When you grow up and get your own house you can play it as loud as you want". Well dear old dad I'm grown and I will play it as loud as I want.
Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
danzilla31 wrote: »jchandler3 wrote: »@danzilla31
Where did you end up setting the crossover for the S60s?
After playing around I liked 50 Hz for the 60's and the subs crossed over at 80hz. I don't know why maybe it's my room acoustics the way the S60's are built or a little of both but they sound the best at that crossover setting.
1. You may have a notch* that the overlap corrects
2. You’re accustomed to a hump** in that range
3. A combo of both.
* room modes causing cancellation
** you posted same earlier
You’ll find moving your LR & sub’s just an inch or two in any direction can change those pesky bottom octaves.
That said, as someone posted earlier, in your “hot seat,” when the FR is even down to system cutoff, your setting are in harmony. An RTA would drastically cut your tuning time. (frustration too.)
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Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
Mother in LawWhen I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
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So sometimes I have flashbacks... rumbleWhen I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
