HELP: All in one streaming solution post Squeezebox

EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,128
edited March 2 in Electronics
I'm putting the feeler out there to see what folks are using now that Squeezebox is pretty much beyond its end of life.

I currently have two Squeezebox Radios in my girls rooms. They use it pretty much exclusively to stream Disneys Pandora station and maybe one other. In my main rig I use PLEX, Spotify and some other things on my Xbox 360 in place of my older Squeezebox Classic v2.

The Radios still work fine, however the ability to control it with the Logitech app has died, so when we need to turn it down at night we cant without going into their rooms, which starts a harrowing game of Russian roulette as to if they wake up or not.

I was hoping someone knew of a cheap all in one solution. I dont need to pricey streamer to connect to a stereo AVR and speakers, I need a all in one streamer that powers speaker(s) and allows for selection of sources, has its own volume control and has the ability to be controlled via a app on a phone.
"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,161
    Sonos, but what do you mean by selectable sources ? How many sources you need aside from Radio and streaming ?
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,784
    I don't understand your issues with Squeezebox control. I have 7 zones - 2 Touches, 4 Duet receivers, and 1 Classic. No problems at all. Maybe it's the app, or maybe it's an issue that only affects the Radios? It's been discussed many times before on here, but several third-party apps seem to work better than the "official" app.

    To answer your question, you should also look into HEOS as an alternative to Sonos. Newer Denon and Marantz AVRs have it built-in, eliminating the need for a separate device for zones powered by that AVR.
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,784
    You could also go with some of the Bose options. The SoundTouch Wireless Link adapter isn't terribly expensive, if you want to set your girls up with a couple cheap 2-channel rigs. Never too early to get them started. ;)

    https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/speakers/multi_room_speakers/soundtouch-adapter.html
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,128
    tonyb wrote: »
    Sonos, but what do you mean by selectable sources ? How many sources you need aside from Radio and streaming ?

    I mean the ability on the device to select whats playing. So selecting Pandora, Spotify, etc.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,128
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    I don't understand your issues with Squeezebox control. I have 7 zones - 2 Touches, 4 Duet receivers, and 1 Classic. No problems at all. Maybe it's the app, or maybe it's an issue that only affects the Radios? It's been discussed many times before on here, but several third-party apps seem to work better than the "official" app.

    To answer your question, you should also look into HEOS as an alternative to Sonos. Newer Denon and Marantz AVRs have it built-in, eliminating the need for a separate device for zones powered by that AVR.

    The Logitech Squeezebox app doesnt work on my iPhone 6Plus anymore. I think it stopped being supported one it

    I will take a gander at other third party apps, but really dont wanna be paying for apps that I find then dont work after installing them on my phone.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,784
    Can't help with iPhone, but Squeeze Commander has always worked great for me on Android. I think iPeng might be the go-to app for Apple, or at least it was...
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,128
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    Can't help with iPhone, but Squeeze Commander has always worked great for me on Android. I think iPeng might be the go-to app for Apple, or at least it was...

    Yeah, I know Android has continue to work as that architecture is MUCH more open than iOS, but we are an all iPhone community.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,161
    tonyb wrote: »
    Sonos, but what do you mean by selectable sources ? How many sources you need aside from Radio and streaming ?

    I mean the ability on the device to select whats playing. So selecting Pandora, Spotify, etc.

    They all do Dan. I don't think there's a digital streaming device made today that you can't.

    Maybe a chromecast might be a simple cheap solution, but individual volume control might be a minus.

    The sonos has it though, along with the ability to group zones together, or play different music in different zones. Set alarms, radio...etc. You can probably find them cheaper on the used markets.
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,752
    Dan, what about iPeng? Doesn't it still work?

    TBH I think there are easier solutions for little ones. I think I sold you one of those radios didn't I? My oldest daughter (10) uses a iphone 5 with an iHome dock. Cheap, simple, with everything you need, but of course she has to control the volume. My twins (6) have a older pioneer UDP connected to a pair of powered def tech monitors. They listen to the same mixed cd every night. Turn it on repeat, set the volume, let it play. Nora (3) just has a sound machine. Easy peasy...
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, Squeezebox Touch
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,128
    @rooftop59

    Don’t know about iPeng. Will do some googling.

    I know I got the classic from you in a trade for b-stock MIT ExP1 interconnects or speaker cables (when they ran the lettering wrong) so that’s what 5-6 years ago lol. Maybe even one of the radios too.

    The solutions you propose won’t work well for my 2 year old or my 5 year old. They don’t not have phones or tablet so that work like that lol.

    We hit the play button on the Radio, walk away and let it ride.

    Then preferably we turn it down a bit later when we go to bed.

    @tonyb I may be forced to go Sonos but then don’t I also need speakers too? I haven’t kept up much with this stuff.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,752
    That's why I use the CD player for the six year olds. They have a little booklet of CDs and can even put in some dance music during the day if they want. CD player and cheap powered monitors, don't have to worry about the technology no longer working!

    iPeng should definitely work. Check out the recent reviews...
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, Squeezebox Touch
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,128
    Clipdat wrote: »

    Good solution, still pricey given who its for :smile:
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    That's why I use the CD player for the six year olds. They have a little booklet of CDs and can even put in some dance music during the day if they want. CD player and cheap powered monitors, don't have to worry about the technology no longer working!

    iPeng should definitely work. Check out the recent reviews...

    Will do some looking. I didnt notice the powered monitors part.... Thats one less thing.....

    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,752
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, Squeezebox Touch
  • gyosagyosa Posts: 10
    Yamaha WXA-50 would be perfect .....
    I have 2 of the non-amplifier versions , WXC-50 , in my systems ..... highly recommended..... they are the only source for content I use ....
    You can usually find open box , full warranty items from Audio IQ for a substantial discount ....
    That’s where I got both of mine from ...
    Bk
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