Are cassettes really making a comeback?

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  • verbverb Posts: 6,076
    Thanks brother I got my fill on cassette decks right now! :smile:
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,448
    edited March 17
    verb wrote: »
    This Nakamichi Deck just popped on CL here locally. 75 bucks! :smile:
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    https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/ele/d/rochester-vintage-nakamichi-cassette/6843681632.html

    I had a Cassette Deck 2 -- gave it to a hifi colleague here in Northern New England for a worthy cause (dubbing some cassette tapes of his long-ago band for a reunion that they were having a couple of years back). It is a very decent albeit quite basic deck.

    18070436333_dec89e5bee_b.jpgcassettedeck2 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 7,762
    Here's a comparison between cassettes and Cds.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 7,762
    edited March 21
    Sorry. I posted too fast without watching the first few minutes of his video. :#
    I didn't know the little boom box was his testing equipment! LOL. :s :'(

    But I liked his final deduction... B) :)

    He said forget about cassettes and Cd's and just go straight to playing Vinyl.
    That made me chuckle for a bit too! Why didn't he just say that in the beginning!

    The title should've been "Cassettes and Cd's vs. Vinyl." ;)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 7,970
    I’m sending a Denon DRM-800 in for mods to turn it into a 800a and get that beeotch singing again. Screw it.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,458
    edited March 21
    There's just simply not enough information on 1/8" cassette tape. 1/4" reel to reel is where it's at!

    https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/130634/Muddy_Waters-Folk_Singer-14_Inch_-_15_IPS_Tape
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,448
    Clipdat wrote: »
    There's just simply not enough information on 1/8" cassette tape. 1/4" reel to reel is where it's at!

    https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/130634/Muddy_Waters-Folk_Singer-14_Inch_-_15_IPS_Tape

    This is, in fact, absolutely true.

    15256338064_3bf36bba8f_b.jpgReVox WHRB Dead aircheck by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,458
    "There's not enough information on 1/8" cassette tape" is what my dad said the other day when I brought up how cassettes were making a comeback with hipsters and asked about the perceived audio quality.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,448
    The track width and the tape speed of cassette work against "high fidelity" (other than bass, in which case the latter parameter's good but the former's still bad). Dynamic range is a particular challenge -- for most of cassette tape/deck's history, the frequency response at even "0 VU" was pretty limited indeed. Some of the very late innovations (e.g., "Dolby HX Pro") did ameliorate that problem a bit.

    That said, the introduction of very high performance tape formulations and effective "compander" type noise reduction techniques wrung every bit of "fidelity" there was to get out of the format, even though it had never really been intended for hifi audio.

    Ever hear even a mid-level Nakamichi deck? Finicky as all getout, but the sound quality was very good.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,458
    The 480 is what my dad had in his old stereo when I was a kid:

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    Not sure if it is considered mid-level or not.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,448
    Low/mid for Nakamichi -- but 'in the zone' in terms of their performance and "sound".

    Speaking of "HX Pro", this, from harman/kardon (who were responsible for some better-than-average cassette decks themselves)

    16060154980_56589c46a4.jpgDolby C and HX pro frequency response by Mark Hardy, on Flickr


    14667522568_0a5ecf8a37_b.jpgcasettebirthday_v2-lrg by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

  • Tony MTony M Posts: 7,762
    I just saw this video starting. I haven't watched it yet but it looks like it might be ok.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,448
    slide controls... ewww.
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,806
    Anyone want a pioneer cassette changer and onkyo deck in this thread? Local to me or will be at Axpona and can give it to you. Its just taking up room here. Haven't used either one in at least 7 years so no idea how the belts are
    Den: Lumin D1,Wireworld Silver Eclipse, KEF LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Jolida D9,
    USB helper: w4s Recovery
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    Have but haven't used in a while: LH Labs VI Dac, Cayin SCD50T

  • verbverb Posts: 6,076
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1, Marantz AMP-1, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 su, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
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  • verbverb Posts: 6,076
    Mark it's been relisted! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1, Marantz AMP-1, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 su, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,448
    verb wrote: »
    Mark it's been relisted! :smile:

    ahem.

    ;)
  • verbverb Posts: 6,076
    This is interesting. Never seen one of these before! Denon Cassematic 12 cassette changer! :smile:
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    https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/ele/d/sterling-heights-rare-denon-cassematic/6874170365.html
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1, Marantz AMP-1, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 su, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,448
    edited April 26
    verb wrote: »
    This is interesting. Never seen one of these before! Denon Cassematic 12 cassette changer! :smile:
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    https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/ele/d/sterling-heights-rare-denon-cassematic/6874170365.html

    If I were sadistic, this is where I'd post
    You should get that.
    B)

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