Are cassettes really making a comeback?

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  • verbverb Posts: 8,895
    Thanks brother I got my fill on cassette decks right now! :smile:
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,154
    edited March 2019
    verb wrote: »
    This Nakamichi Deck just popped on CL here locally. 75 bucks! :smile:
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    https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/ele/d/rochester-vintage-nakamichi-cassette/6843681632.html

    I had a Cassette Deck 2 -- gave it to a hifi colleague here in Northern New England for a worthy cause (dubbing some cassette tapes of his long-ago band for a reunion that they were having a couple of years back). It is a very decent albeit quite basic deck.

    18070436333_dec89e5bee_b.jpgcassettedeck2 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,557
    Here's a comparison between cassettes and Cds.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,557
    edited March 2019
    Sorry. I posted too fast without watching the first few minutes of his video. :#
    I didn't know the little boom box was his testing equipment! LOL. :s:'(

    But I liked his final deduction... B):)

    He said forget about cassettes and Cd's and just go straight to playing Vinyl.
    That made me chuckle for a bit too! Why didn't he just say that in the beginning!

    The title should've been "Cassettes and Cd's vs. Vinyl." ;)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 8,499
    I’m sending a Denon DRM-800 in for mods to turn it into a 800a and get that beeotch singing again. Screw it.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,484
    edited March 2019
    There's just simply not enough information on 1/8" cassette tape. 1/4" reel to reel is where it's at!

    https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/130634/Muddy_Waters-Folk_Singer-14_Inch_-_15_IPS_Tape
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,154
    Clipdat wrote: »
    There's just simply not enough information on 1/8" cassette tape. 1/4" reel to reel is where it's at!

    https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/130634/Muddy_Waters-Folk_Singer-14_Inch_-_15_IPS_Tape

    This is, in fact, absolutely true.

    15256338064_3bf36bba8f_b.jpgReVox WHRB Dead aircheck by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,484
    "There's not enough information on 1/8" cassette tape" is what my dad said the other day when I brought up how cassettes were making a comeback with hipsters and asked about the perceived audio quality.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,154
    The track width and the tape speed of cassette work against "high fidelity" (other than bass, in which case the latter parameter's good but the former's still bad). Dynamic range is a particular challenge -- for most of cassette tape/deck's history, the frequency response at even "0 VU" was pretty limited indeed. Some of the very late innovations (e.g., "Dolby HX Pro") did ameliorate that problem a bit.

    That said, the introduction of very high performance tape formulations and effective "compander" type noise reduction techniques wrung every bit of "fidelity" there was to get out of the format, even though it had never really been intended for hifi audio.

    Ever hear even a mid-level Nakamichi deck? Finicky as all getout, but the sound quality was very good.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,484
    The 480 is what my dad had in his old stereo when I was a kid:

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    Not sure if it is considered mid-level or not.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,154
    Low/mid for Nakamichi -- but 'in the zone' in terms of their performance and "sound".

    Speaking of "HX Pro", this, from harman/kardon (who were responsible for some better-than-average cassette decks themselves)

    16060154980_56589c46a4.jpgDolby C and HX pro frequency response by Mark Hardy, on Flickr


    14667522568_0a5ecf8a37_b.jpgcasettebirthday_v2-lrg by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,557
    I just saw this video starting. I haven't watched it yet but it looks like it might be ok.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,154
    slide controls... ewww.
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 5,163
    Anyone want a pioneer cassette changer and onkyo deck in this thread? Local to me or will be at Axpona and can give it to you. Its just taking up room here. Haven't used either one in at least 7 years so no idea how the belts are
    Den: Lumin D1,Wireworld Silver Eclipse, KEF LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Jolida D9,

    Living Room:,T+A PA 1530R, Tyler Highland H2, Aries Mini, High Fidelity Reveal RCA, Grant Fidelity Tube Dac 11, W4S recovery, Wireworld Platinum Starlight, PS Audio Direct Stream JR.

    Have but haven't used in a while: LH Labs VI Dac, Cayin SCD50T

  • verbverb Posts: 8,895
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,895
    Mark it's been relisted! :smile:
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,154
    verb wrote: »
    Mark it's been relisted! :smile:

    ahem.

    ;)
  • verbverb Posts: 8,895
    This is interesting. Never seen one of these before! Denon Cassematic 12 cassette changer! :smile:
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    https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/ele/d/sterling-heights-rare-denon-cassematic/6874170365.html
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    Office: PC,EAR Acute CD Player,EAR 834L Pre,Northstar Designs Intenso DAC,PASS ACA Monoblocks,Denon UDR-F10 Cassette,Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers,SVS SB12 Plus sub,MIT AVt2 speaker cables,IFI Purifier2,AQ Cinnamon USB cable,Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks,Tisbury Mini Passive Pre,Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38),Analysis Plus Oval 9's,Zu Jumpers,AudioEngine B1 Streamer,Klipsch RB-61 v2,SVS PB1000 sub,Blue Jeans RCA IC's
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,154
    edited April 2019
    verb wrote: »
    This is interesting. Never seen one of these before! Denon Cassematic 12 cassette changer! :smile:
    xenl5al5oetx.png
    https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/ele/d/sterling-heights-rare-denon-cassematic/6874170365.html

    If I were sadistic, this is where I'd post
    You should get that.
    B)

  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,164
    Getting in on this action after some recent 'harvesting' from my dad's garage.

    Denon DRM-740:
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    Coming out of storage, this one 'just works'...and very smoothly.

    Nakamichi CR-2A:
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    Not their TOTL, but again, it just works.

    Nakamichi 680:
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    I think a new idler tire is all this one needs. It is one of the better Nak cassette decks.

    Project/One FLD-2500:
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    Surely some of you mid-western boys remember this house brand. This unit isn't playing, but maybe an idler tire is needed???

    Tandberg TCD-310:
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    Clearly some cosmetic issues, but it does work!
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,895
    Very cool! :)
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS,Cary SLP-05 Pre,Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport,Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC,Cambridge 851N streamer,Marantz SA-14 SACD,McIntosh MC300 Amp,Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable,Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner,Pangea Power Cables,Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's,MIT Shotgun S3 IC's,MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC,EAR Acute CD Player,EAR 834L Pre,Northstar Designs Intenso DAC,PASS ACA Monoblocks,Denon UDR-F10 Cassette,Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers,SVS SB12 Plus sub,MIT AVt2 speaker cables,IFI Purifier2,AQ Cinnamon USB cable,Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks,Tisbury Mini Passive Pre,Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38),Analysis Plus Oval 9's,Zu Jumpers,AudioEngine B1 Streamer,Klipsch RB-61 v2,SVS PB1000 sub,Blue Jeans RCA IC's
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  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,048
    That Nak 680 is nice! Hope you get it running good.
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 8,499
    Just had a Denon DRM-800 refurbed and modded to 800A. Pics to follow.
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 1,633
    They are this morning!

    Deoxit, white vinegar, Q-tips, alcohol, hair dryer, Phillips screwdriver, CHECK.
    Metallica, Check.
    Bandaid fix on the NAKA BX100 working!
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  • I also would buy some spacey tapes at good wills sometimes. I think .25 for a tape.

    I played one a year ago playing chess and was blown away by the clarity. But then again, my hearing is high challenged.
  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 8,799
    I gotta admit the lure of cassette nostalgia is tugging hard on me.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 15,380
    edited November 2019
    Nightfall wrote: »
    I gotta admit the lure of cassette nostalgia is tugging hard on me.

    This should push you over the edge...

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    A lot of good albums in the batch.
    My player shot cra ps years ago... Maybe I should find another. This is my file cabinet at work.
  • skrolskrol Posts: 2,851
    dromunds wrote: »
    Just had a Denon DRM-800 refurbed and modded to 800A. Pics to follow.

    I'm curious, what is involved with the 800A mod? I have a DRM-700A and DRM-800A.
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade), Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7; Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 1,633
    hiding my cassette playing :#
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