OLED vs. QLED - My Observations

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  • WagnerRCWagnerRC Posts: 1,952
    Going to go ahead and pick up a Sony xbr65 900f. Is it best to pay and have these tv calibrated by a pro or can it be done with guidance. Thanks
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,586
    WagnerRC wrote: »
    Going to go ahead and pick up a Sony xbr65 900f. Is it best to pay and have these tv calibrated by a pro or can it be done with guidance. Thanks

    I say give it a try yourself. TV calibration used to be a PITA, but calibration has become easier

    https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS818US818&biw=1920&bih=938&tbm=vid&ei=us47XKP5LczAtQWYkKaoBg&q=sony+xbr+65+900f+calibration&oq=Sony+xbr65+900f+ca&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.33i10i299k1l2j33i10i160k1.10143.10907.0.13777.3.3.0.0.0.0.446.855.4-2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.2.854....0.qF-Hx2zsaac
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
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  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 2,058
    Change the picture mode to custom and back light to 12, your 90 percent there. Evaluate if pro calibration is necessary then n
  • WagnerRCWagnerRC Posts: 1,952
    Wish I never waited to upgrade. This Sony is very very nice for the money, this. One replaced an old last version Panasonic plasma. I have a Sony XBR lcd in the man cave. This new 4K stuff is very nice even at the 1080 input. Very impressed.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,443
    Congrats Bob, always said you don't buy a 4k tv for the limited 4k material available. You buy it for the upscaling of the 1080 material that most watch. Sony does a great job at that.

    Calibration....you can google up some settings from pro calibration sites. You'll most likely get a few different ones to try, and just tweek a bit to your liking. Key is getting the motion control right and dispensing that soap opera look you can get.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,589
    Just received my Sammy Q8F 75" today and will be installing it later this afternoon. Started ripping the rack apart and will finish before help arrives to hang the BMF.

    So far i have actually been impressed with the Best Buy purchase and delivery process.
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7704 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo UDP 203 | Sony PS4 Pro| Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub | SVS SB2000 Sub | Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office |Cocktail Audio X14 | KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 | Bluesound Node |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 |
  • WagnerRCWagnerRC Posts: 1,952
    This was my first buy from Best buy in may 10 or more years. Happy with the price and customer service at pick up. Very good to see them doing well.
  • adabroadabro Posts: 208
    Good to hear - I've been eyeing that TV for a while, planning to get it from Best Buy.
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,589
    So we hubg this beast on the wall tonite. The old 64" plasma which was flat to the wall seems small as this set is a foot away from the wall. The picture quality is bright, sharp and overall a HUGE upgrade.

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    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7704 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo UDP 203 | Sony PS4 Pro| Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub | SVS SB2000 Sub | Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office |Cocktail Audio X14 | KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 | Bluesound Node |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 |
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,443
    Right....makes your old plasma look dull doesn't it ?
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,589
    Very bright and accurate. but not fake with no soap opera effects. Going to get the full HT configured to work with it and the Oppo 203 and the PS4. Absolutely no off axis issues in my seating areas and can watch from the patio as well.

    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7704 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo UDP 203 | Sony PS4 Pro| Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub | SVS SB2000 Sub | Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office |Cocktail Audio X14 | KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 | Bluesound Node |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 |
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,589
    Had Directv come in this morning to swap out the HD Genie client for a 4K Genie client . I have 4K on some sets, but this one blows them all away. Directv broadcasts a handful of 4K channels that include some sports (NBA, CBB, a couple of nature content channels and a 4K PPV channel). Not a lot of content yet but it is very stunning to see the difference between 4K and HD...

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    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7704 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo UDP 203 | Sony PS4 Pro| Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub | SVS SB2000 Sub | Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office |Cocktail Audio X14 | KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 | Bluesound Node |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 |
  • WagnerRCWagnerRC Posts: 1,952
    Why does directv have to swap out the genie. I called for a new genie which is no charge but a 49.00 install charge. Can't the new genie be plug and play? Thanks for the info. Directv rep was no help at all when I asked.
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,589
    If your old genie was wireless they may have to come out and wire the 4K genie which needs a coax connection to the SWM. Depending where you are withing your contract they allow you to make upgrades at a pre negotiated price. If you are going to the 4K genie client then there may be an EQ charge. I have a contract that covers all equipment and installation with no charges.
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7704 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo UDP 203 | Sony PS4 Pro| Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub | SVS SB2000 Sub | Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office |Cocktail Audio X14 | KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 | Bluesound Node |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 |
  • WagnerRCWagnerRC Posts: 1,952
    Thank you mickey. My older Genie is hardwired in. I will call Direct Tv again. I have been a customer with directv from day one. I don't care for att buying the system. I just want to swap the genie my self. Thanks again.
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,589
    So I think you understand this, But the Genie II is the DVR and server to the clients.... The newer Genies have a base unit which contains the DVr and can support multiple "clients" which are mini boxes that connect to the GenieII/DVR/Server... The SD/HD clients can connect wirelessly but 4K clients need to connected physically to the Genie II via coax.

    New GenieII not to be confused with Barbara Eden B)

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    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7704 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo UDP 203 | Sony PS4 Pro| Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub | SVS SB2000 Sub | Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office |Cocktail Audio X14 | KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 | Bluesound Node |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 |
  • WagnerRCWagnerRC Posts: 1,952
    They are coming out tomorrow to swap out the genie and 2 mini's too. There is no way around self install. They mentioned being a customer since 1994. Thanks for the info.
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,589
    There goes all of your DVR content. Someday this dish and receiver are all going to go away and will be on the interwebs with storage in the cloud... Even Directv is going to do that too. You can already get Directv NOW which is their streaming service.

    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7704 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo UDP 203 | Sony PS4 Pro| Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub | SVS SB2000 Sub | Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office |Cocktail Audio X14 | KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 | Bluesound Node |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 |
  • tophatjohnnytophatjohnny Posts: 2,610
    8k right around the corner.
    "if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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  • WagnerRCWagnerRC Posts: 1,952
    damn it. forgot about the stored programs. crap.
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,589
    Yup it's literally here but it is expensive and there currently are no providers or sources. You can buy yours on the Samsung site now.

    https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/qled-8k-tvs/85--class-q900r-qled-smart-8k-uhd-tv--2018--qn85q900rafxza/

    And just like HD and 4L the inital products will prolly be throw aways once the providers and source manufacturers get on board.
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7704 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo UDP 203 | Sony PS4 Pro| Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub | SVS SB2000 Sub | Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office |Cocktail Audio X14 | KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 | Bluesound Node |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 |
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,589
    WagnerRC wrote: »
    damn it. forgot about the stored programs. crap.

    You may be able to keep your old DVR inline.... ask the tech. Or maybe remove the HD and add it as a second drive to your new dvr.... I haven't checked either solution but there are a lot of talented techs out there especiall since most of the are indy contractors for DTV.



    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7704 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo UDP 203 | Sony PS4 Pro| Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub | SVS SB2000 Sub | Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office |Cocktail Audio X14 | KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 | Bluesound Node |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 |
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,349
    solution might be to put it on a outside hard drive yourself. You do have that ability with Dish but it must be a powered hard drive not passive.
  • WagnerRCWagnerRC Posts: 1,952
    edited January 17
    There goes all of your DVR content. Someday this dish and receiver are all going to go away and will be on the interwebs with storage in the cloud... Even Directv is going to do that too. You can already get Directv NOW which is their streaming service.

    DidMikey081057 did you have to update the dish or LNB for the 4k update? Thanks


    https://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=3d2rblnb
    Post edited by WagnerRC on
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,589
    So I think they updated the LNB when I originally upgraded to 4k some 3? years ago. But it does require the correct LNB... I think it just needs to be an oval dish tho.
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7704 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo UDP 203 | Sony PS4 Pro| Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub | SVS SB2000 Sub | Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office |Cocktail Audio X14 | KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 | Bluesound Node |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 |
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,589
    Have them show you that the eq is grounded properly too. A lot of lazy installers sheet metal screw the dish ground to the metal soffit material.
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7704 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo UDP 203 | Sony PS4 Pro| Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub | SVS SB2000 Sub | Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office |Cocktail Audio X14 | KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 | Bluesound Node |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 |
  • pawelmwopawelmwo Posts: 81
    Going to weigh in here a bit. I own an OLED and have demoed a handful of QLED and high end LEDs. While the QLED can hit the black levels of an OLED in some scenes. It just doesn’t compare overall. You have occasional residual light spill from the dimming zones. OLED is self emissive so when you see black the pixel turns off. This gives you a gorgeous contrast ratio in the dark. OLED is going to give you the closest experience to a plasma at 1/3 of the weight and low power consumption. With regards to OLED not being good with motion I disagree. Cut the cord and use YouTubeTV or HuluTV and those stream at 60fps. Compared to my Panasonic plasma I am very happy with the LG C8. It is a ton brighter. I have to have my brightness maxed out on the plasma to reach 50% on the OLED. Dolby Vision and HDR10 UHD look fantastic. You can also pick up OLEDs at a fraction of the cost of QLED now at places like greentoe.

    My only complaint with the OLED is that you do play a bit of a panel lottery. My first one had a lot of posterizarion in the shadows, banding at 5% grey and developed a vertical bar after 1000 hours. After they replaced it my second one is perfect. Great tonality in the shadows and perfect ISF picture modes. I didn’t even bother running a calibration yet it looks so good. It really is a treat watching anything on this set, especially movies with a lot of dark scenes. Every seat in the house is great. LED’s are just going to look washed out and blacks turn grey off axis.
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,589
    The comments are interesting.

    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    HT:Polk LSiM 706 LSiM 705's VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's| Marantz AV7704 | Sunfire TGA-7401 | Oppo UDP 203 | Sony PS4 Pro| Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | SVS PB13 Ultra | MIT EXP 2's (Fronts & Center)

    ManCave: Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro | Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's | Usher BE-616 Center | SVS Ultra Surrounds | SVS SB4000 Sub | SVS SB2000 Sub | Oppo UDP 203 | MIT Shotgun S3's | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life | Samsung 50" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office |Cocktail Audio X14 | KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 | Bluesound Node |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 |
  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,397
    Have seen several LED (LCD) sets in the last few years, at friends houses, and possbily due to adjustments and such, none seemed to better our one fairly low priced Panny plasma......

    None have looked bad, but some were fairly high end, and just were not any improvement as far as reality of colors, black levels and overall "realness" of an image.

    Brighter, yes, but somehow just not right.
    Lsi15, Lsi9, LsiC,Rta11t,M5jr+,M4,SDA 3.1TL, SDA SRS 2.3TL, Rti6....Still listing stuff, a work in progress.
    B+W-Sold
    Epos-Now gone
    Infinity-Sold
    Advent-Now gone
    Yamaha A-S801
    Yamaha RX-V377
    Yamaha RX-A860
    Yamaha RX-A3060
    Harman Kardon Hk-350i
    Harman Kardon Hk-........
    Harman Kardon PM-665
    Harman Kardon HK-775
    Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver

  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,397
    edited January 30
    pawelmwo wrote: »
    Going to weigh in here a bit. I own an OLED and have demoed a handful of QLED and high end LEDs. While the QLED can hit the black levels of an OLED in some scenes. It just doesn’t compare overall. You have occasional residual light spill from the dimming zones. OLED is self emissive so when you see black the pixel turns off. This gives you a gorgeous contrast ratio in the dark. OLED is going to give you the closest experience to a plasma at 1/3 of the weight and low power consumption. With regards to OLED not being good with motion I disagree. Cut the cord and use YouTubeTV or HuluTV and those stream at 60fps. Compared to my Panasonic plasma I am very happy with the LG C8. It is a ton brighter. I have to have my brightness maxed out on the plasma to reach 50% on the OLED. Dolby Vision and HDR10 UHD look fantastic. You can also pick up OLEDs at a fraction of the cost of QLED now at places like greentoe.

    My only complaint with the OLED is that you do play a bit of a panel lottery. My first one had a lot of posterizarion in the shadows, banding at 5% grey and developed a vertical bar after 1000 hours. After they replaced it my second one is perfect. Great tonality in the shadows and perfect ISF picture modes. I didn’t even bother running a calibration yet it looks so good. It really is a treat watching anything on this set, especially movies with a lot of dark scenes. Every seat in the house is great. LED’s are just going to look washed out and blacks turn grey off axis.

    We are looking for a newer Bigger TV, and own a panasonic plasma, but other than OLED, nothing looks quite as good.

    Was your OLED similar color wise, and so on?
    I hate buying a new OLED, then finding out a year later, they improved more or cost half as much, and mine is worthless..lol

    We never have our brightness at more than 50%, and much more and it is too bright for us. But we have a room without much direct light at all, and fairly dim.
    Lsi15, Lsi9, LsiC,Rta11t,M5jr+,M4,SDA 3.1TL, SDA SRS 2.3TL, Rti6....Still listing stuff, a work in progress.
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