Cable Elevators ~ part deux
F1nut
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First let me say that I've long given up caring as to whether cable elevators have any effect on the sound, so no one needs to go there.
I purchased ten wooden cable elevators years ago from Russ Andrews and painted them flat black. They are used to support the MIT speaker cables in my big rig. However, one thing bothered me a bit, they are very light weight, so a bit tippy. Over the years I thought of various ways to make them heavier, but since that was really low on the list time just slipped by until last week when I got the serious bug. I found some 2" diameter, 3/8" thick 316 stainless steel discs. I used 3M double sided ultra thin adhesive to attach the disc and put a self adhesive rubber disc on the very bottom. This is the result of which I'm beyond tickled.
I'm so tickled with these that I've ordered a boat load more cable elevators, discs and rubber pads to do my other rigs.
I purchased ten wooden cable elevators years ago from Russ Andrews and painted them flat black. They are used to support the MIT speaker cables in my big rig. However, one thing bothered me a bit, they are very light weight, so a bit tippy. Over the years I thought of various ways to make them heavier, but since that was really low on the list time just slipped by until last week when I got the serious bug. I found some 2" diameter, 3/8" thick 316 stainless steel discs. I used 3M double sided ultra thin adhesive to attach the disc and put a self adhesive rubber disc on the very bottom. This is the result of which I'm beyond tickled.
I'm so tickled with these that I've ordered a boat load more cable elevators, discs and rubber pads to do my other rigs.
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"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Shaking my head ....
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Dag Jes, those things look pro finished. Very nice.
How long 'til they're fully broken in?I disabled signatures. -
Inquiring minds want to know where you sourced the elusive black paint.
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Dag Jes, those things look pro finished. Very nice.
How long 'til they're fully broken in?
200 hours, it's always 200 hours.Political Correctness'.........defined
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ken brydson wrote: »Inquiring minds want to know where you sourced the elusive black paint.
I lied, there is no black paint, it's a dye.
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They look factory to me......but then again, I've never seen an elevator/riser factory so what do I know?
On cable risers and carpet I never can remember, isolate or insulate? I think risers with miniature spikes might be overkill.HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable
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Regardless of the sound impact. That's pretty cool. Very sharp.Music: Oppo103 - Parasound JC2 - Parasound A21- SDA 3.1
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ken brydson wrote: »Inquiring minds want to know where you sourced the elusive black paint.
I lied, there is no black paint, it's a dye.
That explains it! Else I was gonna ask you to out your source...
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Psssh - No such thing!Dennis Gardner wrote: »I think risers with miniature spikes might be overkill.
I think 3 spikes per elevator, minimum for stability. Or outriggers.
Also, core out the aluminum base, fill with lead shot. Finish by pouring the contents of a Cards Quad filled solder pot over the shot to fill any voids. Or in a pinch, Play Sand as a second best alternative. Next to depleted Uranium, I mean.I disabled signatures. -
I thought it was 10,000 hours...
http://www.businessinsider.com/new-study-destroys-malcolm-gladwells-10000-rule-2014-7
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Very elegant.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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I heard that a layer of BH5 between the riser and metal disc can work wonders for bass extension and imaging.Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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Sleek and elegant!
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They look Professionally made, Very well done Jesse..
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Very cool looking. Inquiring minds want to know. How much does each assembled unit set one back?
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Very nice!
My Belden cables would look great displayed on them Mojo Audio Illuminati v3>>Quantum Byte w/LMS>>Rpi/PiCoreplayer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Mojo Audio Mystique v2 SE>>ModWright SWL 9.0 SE Signature>>Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts Fully Modded)>>
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Psssh - No such thing!Dennis Gardner wrote: »I think risers with miniature spikes might be overkill.
I think 3 spikes per elevator, minimum for stability. Or outriggers.
Also, core out the aluminum base, fill with lead shot. Finish by pouring the contents of a Cards Quad filled solder pot over the shot to fill any voids. Or in a pinch, Play Sand as a second best alternative. Next to depleted Uranium, I mean.
Scott it's 316 stainless. Not aluminium. If you would just melt and pour the lead shot there would be no need to waste the Cardas solder...
I mean come on man think this through
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Very cool looking. Inquiring minds want to know. How much does each assembled unit set one back?
Materials and labor plus a profit margin.....I think you'd be looking at a retail price of $50.00 each.Post edited by F1nut onPolitical Correctness'.........defined
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Looks great.Pio Elete Pro 520
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Hey Jesse,
Where did you find the ss discs?Mojo Audio Illuminati v3>>Quantum Byte w/LMS>>Rpi/PiCoreplayer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Mojo Audio Mystique v2 SE>>ModWright SWL 9.0 SE Signature>>Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts Fully Modded)>>
SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modded)...Velodyne Optimum 8 subwoofer
1KVA Dreadnought
Marantz SA 8005
Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570
Sony PS4
Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video
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lol, dangit, morning speed-reading; bah; I read 'stainless' but changed it to al-yoo-min-eeum in my mind.
Psssh - No such thing!Dennis Gardner wrote: »I think risers with miniature spikes might be overkill.
I think 3 spikes per elevator, minimum for stability. Or outriggers.
Also, core out the aluminum base, fill with lead shot. Finish by pouring the contents of a Cards Quad filled solder pot over the shot to fill any voids. Or in a pinch, Play Sand as a second best alternative. Next to depleted Uranium, I mean.
Scott it's 316 stainless. Not aluminium. If you would just melt and pour the lead shot there would be no need to waste the Cardas solder...
I mean come on man think this through
I thought about just melting the lead as well, but... well... eh, ah, forget it.I disabled signatures. -
Jesse, did those rubber discs come sized just so, or did you have to cut them? The look clean and appear to fit perfectly. Curious where you sourced them.I disabled signatures.
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You know they must be cryoed. Have you put them in the freezer for the minimum 1300 hours. Seriously, they look like audio jewelry.Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's
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They look fantastic!!!
Great job Jesse!!Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎
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It's all out there, you just have to look for it.
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Those look great. I made some out of solid oak, stained and laboured. They look cool, didn't notice any change in sound.2 channel:
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^^^ lacquered not laboured2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.
