Cable Elevators ~ part deux

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F1nut
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First let me say that I've long given up caring as to whether cable elevators have any effect on the sound, so no one needs to go there.

I purchased ten wooden cable elevators years ago from Russ Andrews and painted them flat black. They are used to support the MIT speaker cables in my big rig. However, one thing bothered me a bit, they are very light weight, so a bit tippy. Over the years I thought of various ways to make them heavier, but since that was really low on the list time just slipped by until last week when I got the serious bug. I found some 2" diameter, 3/8" thick 316 stainless steel discs. I used 3M double sided ultra thin adhesive to attach the disc and put a self adhesive rubber disc on the very bottom. This is the result of which I'm beyond tickled.

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I'm so tickled with these that I've ordered a boat load more cable elevators, discs and rubber pads to do my other rigs. B)




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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,583
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    Shaking my head ....
    BLING BLING
    Pretty cool Jesse.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 9,464
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    Dag Jes, those things look pro finished. Very nice.
    How long 'til they're fully broken in?
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,650
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    Inquiring minds want to know where you sourced the elusive black paint.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,805
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    msg wrote: »
    Dag Jes, those things look pro finished. Very nice.
    How long 'til they're fully broken in?

    200 hours, it's always 200 hours.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • F1nut
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    ken brydson wrote: »
    Inquiring minds want to know where you sourced the elusive black paint.

    I lied, there is no black paint, it's a dye. >:)
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,860
    edited August 2017
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    They look factory to me......but then again, I've never seen an elevator/riser factory so what do I know?

    On cable risers and carpet I never can remember, isolate or insulate? I think risers with miniature spikes might be overkill.
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  • Legender
    Legender Posts: 478
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    Regardless of the sound impact. That's pretty cool. Very sharp.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,049
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    F1nut wrote: »
    ken brydson wrote: »
    Inquiring minds want to know where you sourced the elusive black paint.

    I lied, there is no black paint, it's a dye. >:)

    That explains it! Else I was gonna ask you to out your source...
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  • msg
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    Dennis Gardner wrote: »
    I think risers with miniature spikes might be overkill.
    Psssh - No such thing!
    I think 3 spikes per elevator, minimum for stability. Or outriggers.

    Also, core out the aluminum base, fill with lead shot. Finish by pouring the contents of a Cards Quad filled solder pot over the shot to fill any voids. Or in a pinch, Play Sand as a second best alternative. Next to depleted Uranium, I mean.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,049
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    F1nut wrote: »
    msg wrote: »
    Dag Jes, those things look pro finished. Very nice.
    How long 'til they're fully broken in?

    200 hours, it's always 200 hours.

    I thought it was 10,000 hours... ;)

    http://www.businessinsider.com/new-study-destroys-malcolm-gladwells-10000-rule-2014-7

    oh, wait, that's been debunked...
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,522
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    Very elegant.
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  • nspindel
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    I heard that a layer of BH5 between the riser and metal disc can work wonders for bass extension and imaging.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,082
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    Sleek and elegant!

    H9
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
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    They look Professionally made, Very well done Jesse.. :)
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  • DaveHo
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    Very cool looking. Inquiring minds want to know. How much does each assembled unit set one back?
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  • machone
    machone Posts: 1,478
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    Very nice!
    My Belden cables would look great displayed on them >:)
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  • pitdogg2
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    msg wrote: »
    Dennis Gardner wrote: »
    I think risers with miniature spikes might be overkill.
    Psssh - No such thing!
    I think 3 spikes per elevator, minimum for stability. Or outriggers.

    Also, core out the aluminum base, fill with lead shot. Finish by pouring the contents of a Cards Quad filled solder pot over the shot to fill any voids. Or in a pinch, Play Sand as a second best alternative. Next to depleted Uranium, I mean.

    Scott it's 316 stainless. Not aluminium. If you would just melt and pour the lead shot there would be no need to waste the Cardas solder...
    I mean come on man think this through :p
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,805
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    DaveHo wrote: »
    Very cool looking. Inquiring minds want to know. How much does each assembled unit set one back?

    Materials and labor plus a profit margin.....I think you'd be looking at a retail price of $50.00 each.
    Post edited by F1nut on
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • vmaxer
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    Looks great.
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  • machone
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    Hey Jesse,
    Where did you find the ss discs?
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    1KVA Dreadnought

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    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570
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  • msg
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    msg wrote: »
    Dennis Gardner wrote: »
    I think risers with miniature spikes might be overkill.
    Psssh - No such thing!
    I think 3 spikes per elevator, minimum for stability. Or outriggers.

    Also, core out the aluminum base, fill with lead shot. Finish by pouring the contents of a Cards Quad filled solder pot over the shot to fill any voids. Or in a pinch, Play Sand as a second best alternative. Next to depleted Uranium, I mean.

    Scott it's 316 stainless. Not aluminium. If you would just melt and pour the lead shot there would be no need to waste the Cardas solder...
    I mean come on man think this through :p
    lol, dangit, morning speed-reading; bah; I read 'stainless' but changed it to al-yoo-min-eeum in my mind.

    I thought about just melting the lead as well, but... well... eh, ah, forget it.
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  • msg
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    Jesse, did those rubber discs come sized just so, or did you have to cut them? The look clean and appear to fit perfectly. Curious where you sourced them.
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  • stones89
    stones89 Posts: 229
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    You know they must be cryoed. Have you put them in the freezer for the minimum 1300 hours. Seriously, they look like audio jewelry.
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  • F1nut
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    It's all out there, you just have to look for it.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,916
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    They look fantastic!!!

    Great job Jesse!!
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  • EndersShadow
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    F1nut wrote: »
    It's all out there, you just have to look for it.

    You sir are not allowed to talk that way.... I refuse to search for things :smile:
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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
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    Those look great. I made some out of solid oak, stained and laboured. They look cool, didn't notice any change in sound.
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  • mikeyb128
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    ^^^ lacquered not laboured
    2 channel:
    Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
    Theater:
    Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.

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