Lengthy LSiM 703 Review

deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,371
Holy ****! Im selling my B&W CDM 1NTs!

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  • great review, very lengthy lol. the 703's are definitely good.
    Cambridge Azur 651A
    Polk LSi M703
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  • mantismantis Posts: 15,118
    the1NT's are awesome speakers
    Dan
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  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,371
    great review, very lengthy lol. the 703's are definitely good.

    Thanks! Kinda knee jerk reaction.
  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,371
    mantis wrote: »
    the1NT's are awesome speakers

    They are and ive have quite a few respectable bookies pass through here. All joking aside, ill post comments later fwiw. The 703s weren't better in all regards, but for a 2 ch stand mount set up, they are great.
  • Erik TracyErik Tracy Posts: 4,691
    Interested in the followup.

    Are the 703s just 'different' or an actual upgrade?

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,371
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    Interested in the followup.

    Are the 703s just 'different' or an actual upgrade?

    They are different speakers. The Polks dont quite have the air that the B&Ws have, but it has a more full range sound for sure. Best bass i have heard from a bookie. Deep, tight and controlled. Getting used to the ring tweet, but its accurate for sure.

    I am going strictly 2 ch with no subs. 703s are definitely better suited for that duty.
  • deronb1 wrote: »
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    Interested in the followup.

    Are the 703s just 'different' or an actual upgrade?

    They are different speakers. The Polks dont quite have the air that the B&Ws have, but it has a more full range sound for sure. Best bass i have heard from a bookie. Deep, tight and controlled. Getting used to the ring tweet, but its accurate for sure.

    I am going strictly 2 ch with no subs. 703s are definitely better suited for that duty.

    is the tweeter a little too laid back for you.. i feel the tweeter is allot more laid back than what i am used. no fatigue to the ears and makes thing sound very smooth

    these do have allot of bass, usually i buy towers and these bookies are the first speakers i have had where i have not used a sub, sounds better with the sub off

    Cambridge Azur 651A
    Polk LSi M703
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  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,371
    deronb1 wrote: »
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    Interested in the followup.

    Are the 703s just 'different' or an actual upgrade?

    They are different speakers. The Polks dont quite have the air that the B&Ws have, but it has a more full range sound for sure. Best bass i have heard from a bookie. Deep, tight and controlled. Getting used to the ring tweet, but its accurate for sure.

    I am going strictly 2 ch with no subs. 703s are definitely better suited for that duty.

    is the tweeter a little too laid back for you.. i feel the tweeter is allot more laid back than what i am used. no fatigue to the ears and makes thing sound very smooth

    these do have allot of bass, usually i buy towers and these bookies are the first speakers i have had where i have not used a sub, sounds better with the sub off
    Yes, more laid back, but not dark and dry. Its a good tweeter, just a lot different from tha aluminium dome on the B&Ws. Spyro Gyra "Good to Go Go" is one of the best recorded CDs ive ever heard and the 703s just nailed it.

  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,371
    F1nut wrote: »
    A lot.

    Yup, i got my subs dialed in the best i could and still have standing waves. I have a good sized room, but its pretty much square with a vaulted ceiling. Subs in my room just muddy the water for music.
  • Erik TracyErik Tracy Posts: 4,691
    deronb1 wrote: »
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    Interested in the followup.

    Are the 703s just 'different' or an actual upgrade?

    They are different speakers. The Polks dont quite have the air that the B&Ws have, but it has a more full range sound for sure. Best bass i have heard from a bookie. Deep, tight and controlled. Getting used to the ring tweet, but its accurate for sure.

    I am going strictly 2 ch with no subs. 703s are definitely better suited for that duty.

    Thanks for sharing the description.

    I've (finally) got my sub integrated in for 2.1 listening with my CDM 1NTs, so I may just stand pat for a bit.

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • square rooms are bad for LF as you know.
    Have you done the shootout one of each w/ mono material?
    That was when the ringing on the 703 stood out to me.
    I still love them for HT.
    Studio 2 equipment;
    Yamaha a-s2100 Amp, CD-2100 CD player, T-S500 tuner
    Loudspeakers: Harbeth p3esr, Polk RT7
    Cables: Aural Harmony Sonnet Interconnect II, WireWorld Equinox 7 speaker,
    Black Cat silverstar 75 ohm digital, Signal Digital Power Cord, PS Audio Perfect Wave AC-3,
    Pangea SE14, Voltz supplied interconnects
    Optional: Arcam DV88 DVD/CD (HDCD) player, Polk SDS-400 speakers
  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 7,454
    I wasn't all that impressed with the 703's when I first got them, but they really improved as break-in ensued. Now after a considerable break-in period I am really enjoying them.
  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,371
    square rooms are bad for LF as you know.
    Have you done the shootout one of each w/ mono material?
    That was when the ringing on the 703 stood out to me.
    I still love them for HT.

    I did not do that. I dont hear a ringing from them as much as a more hollow sound on some recordings. I think, much like the B&Ws, they are unforgiving with poorly recorded tracks.
  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,371
    dromunds wrote: »
    I wasn't all that impressed with the 703's when I first got them, but they really improved as break-in ensued. Now after a considerable break-in period I am really enjoying them.

    For sure, they needed to break in and for my ears to adjust. I do a lot of lower volume listening and love the fact that i can get palpable bass as lower volumes.
  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 7,454
    ^ Yeah, I'm really liking the Twin Peaks theme song on those puppies, lots of palpable LF. Lol.
  • deronb1 wrote: »
    square rooms are bad for LF as you know.
    Have you done the shootout one of each w/ mono material?
    That was when the ringing on the 703 stood out to me.
    I still love them for HT.

    I did not do that. I dont hear a ringing from them as much as a more hollow sound on some recordings. I think, much like the B&Ws, they are unforgiving with poorly recorded tracks.

    i have tried to keep mine playing even if im not home and its at a low volume, that should help with the break in a little bit..

    mine sounded dead and dull for the first 20 or 30 minutes than they started sounding better and better. today i have been listening to the at a louder than usual volume and they seem to have opened up even more today. i think they say its a about 100+ hour break in time on new speakers.

    a poor recorded song i played a few days ago sounded bad, today that same song sounded pretty descent. poor recordings are starting to sound allot better than they did. i think ill give mine another week or two before i really judge them and write a review. but they do just keep getting better and better the more they get played.

    Cambridge Azur 651A
    Polk LSi M703
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  • LegenderLegender Posts: 474
    Just did 120 hour break in on mine over the holiday weekend as I was out of town. Hope to hook them up in their new home this weekend am expecting nothing but great sound coming from them.
    Music: Oppo103 - Parasound JC2 - Parasound A21- SDA 3.1
    Theater: Denon 3808 - B&K 7500/Emotiva XPA-3- RTi12, CSi5, RTiA7x4, PSW505
    Sleeping: Marantz 70005 - Harman Kardon 2400 - SDA 2
    2 Channel: Cary 306 SACD - Canary Audio 906 - Pass Labs x250 - PS Audio Perfectwave DAC, Polk LSiM705, SVS SB13 Ultra
    Office: Dell Optiplex, Emotiva XDA-2, Adcom 5500, LSiM 703
    Spares: Yamaha CA-810; LSi 15; Kenwood Basic M2a, Yamaha M60/M80, Polk Monitor 7, SVS SB13 Ultra
  • msgmsg Posts: 4,369
    Glad to see you guys enjoying the 703s B)

    They're def a fave for me. Agreed, I do like that they're good performers even at lower listening levels. Some speakers you have to crank up to the fuller range out of them, otherwise it sounds like you're just listening to tweeters. And yes, I also found them smoother and fuller sounding with time on them, both driver break-in and internals burn-in wise.

    I find that binding posts take the longest to break in. I fill the holes with di-electric grease and hit them with a hair dryer before each session for the first two weeks. kidding. don't do that. (pb works better)
    I disabled signatures.
  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,371
    msg wrote: »
    Glad to see you guys enjoying the 703s B)

    They're def a fave for me. Agreed, I do like that they're good performers even at lower listening levels. Some speakers you have to crank up to the fuller range out of them, otherwise it sounds like you're just listening to tweeters. And yes, I also found them smoother and fuller sounding with time on them, both driver break-in and internals burn-in wise.

    I find that binding posts take the longest to break in. I fill the holes with di-electric grease and hit them with a hair dryer before each session for the first two weeks. kidding. don't do that. (pb works better)

    Ha! Im using bi-wire, so should burn-in twice as fast right?
  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,335
    nope, take 4 times as long. B) B) B) B) B)
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    OPPO BDP-83 SE
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    Not being used:
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    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • mpitogompitogo Posts: 303
    Are the 703 the same including crossover from the top section of a 707? Top section driver sizes are the same, but besides the LPF, subwoofers and extra cabinet, they should be the same right?

    Agree on the break-in, as delivered the bass on the 707 was disappointing compared to the LSi25 they replaced. Its now a few days since and have been playing them daily and it's much better. I looped a test CD's 20Hz track at moderate volume for a few hours and it's helped tremendously.
    Living Room Music-2.0 Polk LSiM 707 | McIntosh C47 | Macintosh MC452 | Denon DP-2500A | Oppo BDP-103 | MacMini
    Family Room Home Theater-7.2.2 (Atmos) Polk LSi25, Martin Logan Motion 50xt, Dual DSW microPRO 3000, fx500, T15, RC65i | Marantz SR7009 | McIntosh MA5200 HT-passthrough & independent 2.0 | Sony UBP-X800 4K | Xbox One S 4K | AppleTV | HTPC | Sony 75” XBR X850D 4K
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    Spares: Polk LSiC, CS300, T15, Martin Logan Motion 40, Dynamo 500, Rotel RB-1590, Denon AVR-4802R, Onkyo DX-C540, Nelson Pass ACA v1.6 Monoblocks, Sony CDP-491, STR DE715, DVP-S500D, PS HX-500
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  • i think the tweeter on mine just woke up today, its sounding less laid back, cymbal hits stand out allot more and seem to ring longer, overdriven guitar sound more fuzzy and full, vocals seem a little more dynamic and the speakers seem to have a little more overall detail.

    i watched a couple action movies full of explosions, gun shots, glass shattering cars crashing and what not last night at a loud-ish volume. i think that gave the speaker a pretty good workout. they sound very impressive for the movies
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  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,713
    Compare again to the BW, see if your ears acclimated to the new sound or it really did break in
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    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
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    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
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  • Erik TracyErik Tracy Posts: 4,691
    When do the B&Ws get kicked to the curb?

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,371
    I have them on US Audiomart along with the center. Also selling the 2 Velodyne DEQ 8r subs and Onk TX-SR 805.
  • Erik TracyErik Tracy Posts: 4,691
    Found it; was thrown off by the listing as a package deal.

    GLTWS!

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,371
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    Found it; was thrown off by the listing as a package deal.

    GLTWS!

    Yeah, figured that was the bedt way to do it.
  • Glad you are happy with them!
    Studio 2 equipment;
    Yamaha a-s2100 Amp, CD-2100 CD player, T-S500 tuner
    Loudspeakers: Harbeth p3esr, Polk RT7
    Cables: Aural Harmony Sonnet Interconnect II, WireWorld Equinox 7 speaker,
    Black Cat silverstar 75 ohm digital, Signal Digital Power Cord, PS Audio Perfect Wave AC-3,
    Pangea SE14, Voltz supplied interconnects
    Optional: Arcam DV88 DVD/CD (HDCD) player, Polk SDS-400 speakers
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