2.3tl mod - no turning back now!
stones89
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Well you fine folks convinced me to do it so I have begun. I have sealed the interior with loctite, installed hurricane nuts, alot of fun that is, power grabbed the MW's on the top and lower portion of the magnets and dynamatted the baskets on the MW's and PR.
The gaskets look good so no Armacell necessary.
All bolts are tight, did make a rookie mistake and over torque one of the bolts so it is history. I filled the hole with loctite and everything seems to be nice and tight. Next up in the next couple of days is cutting and installing Black Hole 5 sheets for the MW’s.
Lastly, is the crossover upgrade that nooshinjohn has been so gracious to rebuild for me. He is the best!
In the next couple of weeks I will button eveything back up and burn in and enjoy. And since I am a cableholic/horder/finatic I know I will have to upgrade the connections and IC with a dreadnought....eventually or I won’t be able to sleep! Also see about the tweeters but I want to see how the SL3000’s sound with a new XO.
Unbelievable info and resources on this site! I will send pix shortly...
The gaskets look good so no Armacell necessary.
All bolts are tight, did make a rookie mistake and over torque one of the bolts so it is history. I filled the hole with loctite and everything seems to be nice and tight. Next up in the next couple of days is cutting and installing Black Hole 5 sheets for the MW’s.
Lastly, is the crossover upgrade that nooshinjohn has been so gracious to rebuild for me. He is the best!
In the next couple of weeks I will button eveything back up and burn in and enjoy. And since I am a cableholic/horder/finatic I know I will have to upgrade the connections and IC with a dreadnought....eventually or I won’t be able to sleep! Also see about the tweeters but I want to see how the SL3000’s sound with a new XO.
Unbelievable info and resources on this site! I will send pix shortly...
Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's
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Good luck, and I look forward to lots of pictures!
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Get the RD-0198's - one of the best mods hands down. This is from experience."Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
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Thanks drumminman, what is your take on the dreadnought?Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's
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NekkidBasis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's -
Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's -
Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's -
Lousy picture but Blackhole 5Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's -
Man am I jealous. You have room to do both at the same time (*and the cabinet is larger so you have more room to do the glue*)
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P.S. I agree about the RD-0198's
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Sounds like the tweeters are paramount in the upgrade.
I've got blistas on my fingas.....from 72 hurricane nuts.Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's -
Sounds like the tweeters are paramount in the upgrade.
I've got blistas on my fingas.....from 72 hurricane nuts. No Pain No Gain, You may you eat the fruit of your labor 2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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Sounds like the tweeters are paramount in the upgrade.
I've got blistas on my fingas.....from 72 hurricane nuts.
Well I guess that can't be any worse than having to modify parts of the cabinet to accept Larry's rings............
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Right, roadblocks are never fun when everything is disassembled.Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's
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It is amazing how much better I was on the second speaker. It's like being a dentist's very first patient.
Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's -
Re: the dreadnought, I built both the 800VA and the 1000Va versions with the Avel-Lindberg trannys and using enclosures from Larry. They both improve the SQ. The advantage of the smaller is that it's an off the shelf item and it's cheaper. The latter provides an audible (to me) upgrade in performance.
I sold the 800 after I built the 1000 and never looked back. I built a second dreadnought for some CRS+ speakers I modded which are used in a HT. Both the main rig and the HT are powered with common ground amps."Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer -
Wow, impressive you have 2 and one in your HT.
I think I will get to that, maybe there will be a group buy in the future. I use mono blocks but also like to drop a stereo Classe CG amp in from time to time. I have an AI-1 wrapped in tin foil currently. I have it hidden behind my speaker because I am starting to believe…maybe I am crazy….Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's -
Looks like a great start, you will be rewarded for all your efforts. I would suggest a pair of sturdy Saw Horses with some carpet or padding across the top bar.
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Looks awesome! FYI, and I made the same mistake, that dynamat tape is just that - tape. It's not dynamat! I bought the same stuff by mistake and still have the roll of aluminum tape! Something like this is the real dynamat stuff.
my 3.1TLs
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Dynamat - I suspected that after I freakin put the speakers back in. I cannot see myself retapping the speakers…oh well….Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's
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Delivered Apr 9, 2017
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Dynamat 13100 1-1/2" Wide and 30' Long DynaTape Sound Deadener
Sold by: Amazon.com LLC
This is what I bought. It clearly says sound deadener, have I been hooked?Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's -
Mike Reeter wrote: »Looks like a great start, you will be rewarded for all your efforts. I would suggest a pair of sturdy Saw Horses with some carpet or padding across the top bar.
MUCH easier on the knees and back when working on those big cabinets!
No doubt! getting them on saw horses can't be an easy feat.
Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's -
2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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my 3.1TLs
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Man, oh well I will let you guys know how the dynamat aluminum finishing tape sounds because the chance of me taking the speakers back out and retapping will happen when monkeys fly out my arse!Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's
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Mike Reeter wrote: »Looks like a great start, you will be rewarded for all your efforts. I would suggest a pair of sturdy Saw Horses with some carpet or padding across the top bar.
MUCH easier on the knees and back when working on those big cabinets!
No doubt! getting them on saw horses can't be an easy feat.
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Thats the problem, I am one man with a 58 year old back. But kneeling and crawling around on the floor is brutal!Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's
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how many of those sheets does it take to do 2 speakers? Anyone know? Maybe i can convince my wife to retape……..not likely!Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's
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granted, I was only doing 1c's, but one sheet did mine, and then some, (including my 2btl's).VA HT HK AVR20II, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Polk Audio RC80i / Polk Audio CSi3, 60" Panasonic Plasma, Nordost / Signal Cable A2 / Wireworld / Pangea / Magic Power
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That should do it then, thanks. If I have to half the amount I will. I would rather do that than overdo. Sounds like a little dab will do ya.Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's
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Peeled off the aluminum tape and applied dynamat xtrem. 2 sheets is plenty.Basis 2200 Signature, Vector 4, Transfiguration Proteus, Allnic H3000, Meridian 200/563, CJ ET5, McIntosh 501's, Thiel CS6, 3.6, Polk SDA SRS 2.3tl, MIT EVO, KS/Wywires PC's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMh6O7HuI08