I want to try a decent (inexpensive) USB cable for a portable HD

afterburnt
afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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So it will need the A and Micro? What do yall suggest?
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Maybe I should have put this in "WTB"?
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Can I move it?
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    I found an Audioquest forest on Amazon for 35 bucks. Any opinions?
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    For that kind of money I would go with a Wireworld. Problem is all of my portables are USB 3.0
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,194
    According to a very recent common sense theory, 90% of the people here believe cables don't matter.......

    ............so based on that, buy the cheapest you can find.












    :tongue:

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,554
    heiney9 wrote: »
    According to a very recent common sense theory, 90% of the people here believe cables don't matter.......

    ............so based on that, buy the cheapest you can find.

    :tongue:

    H9

    I'm offended
    Reported..........

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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    3 out of 4 people make up 75 percent of the worlds population
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  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,465
    afterburnt wrote: »
    I found an Audioquest forest on Amazon for 35 bucks. Any opinions?

    Not bad, like skip said worth a shot,

    Whatever you do stay away from the bargain 99 cent cables even if it's a 1 meter.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    60% of the time it works every time.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Is there anything else that I should look at? I know it's not a huge investment but I have no idea what else is out there. I would go with Wireworld but they don't have an inexpensive USB 3.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,300
    just get the AQ cinnamon 3.0
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    79 bucks, that is fast approaching the Starlight.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,300
    3.0 or no 3.0....then get the forests...quit being difficult :D
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Otay!
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  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,465
    Get the Audioquest, if you don't want to spend the cash on that go Belkin. All of my portable drive cables are Belkin, been using them for years and never had a problem.

    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    afterburnt wrote: »
    3 out of 4 people make up 75 percent of the worlds population

    But the problem is that you don't know which three they are.
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  • Gatecrasher
    Gatecrasher Posts: 1,550
    Are the same theories some people use to justify the value of expensive cables for analog signals applicable for the transmission of digital signals?

    I would be real surprised if there was an audible difference between USB cables unless one was defective or had no conductivity.

    Before anyone decides to attack me over this, notice I said "I'd be surprised" not that I am better than everyone else or anything like that. lol
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,194
    edited April 2017
    Let's not run this thread into the ground. He didn't ask if there are differences in cables. He asked for a low priced cable that people might have experience with.

    H9

    P.s. I'm not saying your comment is an issue, just a general plea to everyone to keep it on track, myself included
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,645
    Gatecrasher wrote: »
    Are the same theories some people use to justify the value of expensive cables for analog signals applicable for the transmission of digital signals?

    I would be real surprised if there was an audible difference between USB cables unless one was defective or had no conductivity.

    Before anyone decides to attack me over this, notice I said "I'd be surprised" not that I am better than everyone else or anything like that. lol

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  • Gatecrasher
    Gatecrasher Posts: 1,550
    edited April 2017
    DSkip wrote: »
    I never wanted to believe there were differences either. Now I have the top of the line Wireworld and have zero regrets about that decision.

    This coming from a guy who tried for over a year or two to find a better speaker cable than my $100 used PNF. I've tried several cables in the $3-5k range and none did better until I got the Equinox in. This is all to say that sometimes bias isn't what it seems from those on the outside looking in.

    It's all about noise. Eliminating it gives you better sound and every component in the rig is a culprit.

    That's interesting. So with the cheaper USB cable you could hear "noise" over it transmitting a digital signal?

    Maybe that would fall into the category of some kind of external interference or something since digital is basically just a 0 or 1? But then, unlike an audio cable, there is power flowing through the USB cable too so maybe that would make sense.

    In any case, I wouldn't have expected any difference since it is kind of like an all-or-nothing when it comes to digital.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,300
    I'm in the IT, integration business and like electronic gadgets and toys.

    Without getting into the audible part. I've used upgraded HDMI's, USB, phone cables etc, just the fact they are made better and last a lot long especially ones for portable devices.

    Have watched speed tests improve with better USB's while data transferring with better cables. Would attribute to better quality builds, and metals.
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  • Gatecrasher
    Gatecrasher Posts: 1,550
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Let's not run this thread into the ground. He didn't ask if there are differences in cables. He asked for a low priced cable that people might have experience with.

    H9

    P.s. I'm not saying your comment is an issue, just a general plea to everyone to keep it on track, myself included

    Unlike F1's typical personal attack, my post has direct relevance to the OP's question. He's looking for an inexpensive "decent" USB cable. I never really knew there were any "bad" ones per say which is why I asked the question.

    Which ones aren't decent?
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    I'm in the IT, integration business and like electronic gadgets and toys.

    Without getting into the audible part. I've used upgraded HDMI's, USB, phone cables etc, just the fact they are made better and last a lot long especially ones for portable devices.

    Have watched speed tests improve with better USB's while data transferring with better cables. Would attribute to better quality builds, and metals.

    That's kind of what I would expect for digital. If a real cheapo one has "noise" maybe it's just the basic build quality that sucks?

    I would think most (if not all) USB cables would be "decent" as long as they aren't defective in some way. I wouldn't expect to see any difference between say a $10 USB cable and a $5,000 one. Maybe between a 50 cent one and a $10 one though.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,194
    edited April 2017
    never mind.........hopeless
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Gatecrasher
    Gatecrasher Posts: 1,550
    heiney9 wrote: »
    never mind.........hopeless

    What's that supposed to mean?
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,300
    Decent, for how long? If it is something you plug and unplug seen to many start getting cr@ppy
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    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • Gatecrasher
    Gatecrasher Posts: 1,550
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Decent, for how long? If it is something you plug and unplug seen to many start getting cr@ppy

    Yeah that's a good point right there. USB does get a lot more abuse (physical wear & tear) than most other cables.
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  • machone
    machone Posts: 1,510
    I use a Starlight 7 and have always been happy with the sound and build quality.

    I have an extra Starlight 7 STM (Type A to Mini x .5 meter) that I no longer need. You said you need a Micro so maybe a no-go.
    I paid $90 and will let it go for $50 if you pay for the shipping.
    PM me if you are interested.
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Machone thanks for the offer but it has to be usb 3. I think i mentioned that somewhere.
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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    I have a straight 7 as well. A great USB cable.
    2 channel:
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    afterburnt wrote: »
    I found an Audioquest forest on Amazon for 35 bucks. Any opinions?

    Although I haven't tested USB cables between HD and player/computer, I have found noticeable differences in USB cables between player and DAC. A few of the head-to-head comparisons were blind tested. I would rank the ones I've tried in this order (cable, $ paid mostly used):

    WW Starlight 7 Platinum, $360
    Curious Cable $120
    DH Labs Silver Sonic Mirage $94
    WW Starlight Silver $200
    WW Starlight Red $49
    WW UV (purple) $56
    AQ Carbon $50
    AQ Forest $35
    Freebies $0
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