Ceiling treatment - clouds. What a pain.

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Nice work, but might be overkill. Just try it with the center two panels and see how it sounds.
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    It looks good Joey! The only thing that I would have done different was use wire cable instead of chains. I went to flying all speakers in installs with cables years ago due to a cleaner look. polarfocus.com/catalog/genus/wire-rope-products-7/
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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,157
    Very nice job. very professional looking.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Dennis Gardner wrote: »
    It looks good Joey! The only thing that I would have done different was use wire cable instead of chains. I went to flying all speakers in installs with cables years ago due to a cleaner look. polarfocus.com/catalog/genus/wire-rope-products-7/

    Wow that's a good one... now do I redo it and go through the pain.... ??
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    kharp1 wrote: »
    On a serious note, great thread Joey. I appreciate the pics and descriptions of your work. Been contemplating ceiling treatments and wondering what all was involved.

    Yes, in all seriousness, it is a cool thread documenting some very nice work.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Nice work, but might be overkill. Just try it with the center two panels and see how it sounds.

    I did, not enough, image still pulled up.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    edited February 2017
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    kharp1 wrote: »
    On a serious note, great thread Joey. I appreciate the pics and descriptions of your work. Been contemplating ceiling treatments and wondering what all was involved.

    Yes, in all seriousness, it is a cool thread documenting some very nice work.

    Hopefully this can help someone looking to do the same thing.

    Advice:
    1. Measure 3 times, hang once.
    2. Toggle hooks rock.
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    Fantastic job. *I* never would have attempted such a tight grouping since any errors are easily apparent. I think that's what makes your install look so good. Well done.

    Now, time to enjoy those new Pioneer speakers. Or did I get that wrong?
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    edited February 2017
    vcwatkins wrote: »
    Fantastic job. *I* never would have attempted such a tight grouping since any errors are easily apparent. I think that's what makes your install look so good. Well done.

    Now, time to enjoy those new Pioneer speakers. Or did I get that wrong?

    Re the tight tile look, it was not as bad as I thought, once you precisely mark the hook drill coordinates, I just used painters tape that was 1" wide, and stuck 2 of them next to each other to make sure the next panel was 2" from the adjacent one. But I agree, it was a pain to get it all centered and lined up right.

    Re the Pioneer speakers... hahaha... funny you mention that.... I was this || close to buying those Pioneer speakers.

    Ala TAD Reference 1s...

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    Unimaginably close.
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    I also found the white spray paint hides chain and hardware against a white ceiling nicely.

    Did you notice any dB crop in ambient noise? I get 2-3 dB drop just having carpet in my listening room over the tile in my living room.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Dennis Gardner wrote: »
    I also found the white spray paint hides chain and hardware against a white ceiling nicely.

    Did you notice any dB crop in ambient noise? I get 2-3 dB drop just having carpet in my listening room over the tile in my living room.

    Hi Dennis,

    I would have to check if I have a dB drop. The ceiling is grey... I really like the wire idea from above...
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    I've gotten to where I paint all hardware anymore. Grey, white or beige spray paint is in my installation kit at all times. From a few feet back it just disappears. This is really true of black speaker cabling.
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    Dennis Gardner wrote: »
    I've gotten to where I paint all hardware anymore. Grey, white or beige spray paint is in my installation kit at all times. From a few feet back it just disappears. This is really true of black speaker cabling.

    Cept' you still can't get black paint. :'(
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    vmaxer wrote: »
    Dennis Gardner wrote: »
    I've gotten to where I paint all hardware anymore. Grey, white or beige spray paint is in my installation kit at all times. From a few feet back it just disappears. This is really true of black speaker cabling.

    Cept' you still can't get black paint. :'(

    Maybe he's got, you know, a pro resource :*
    He could tell us, but then he'd have to kill us.
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Re the Pioneer speakers... hahaha... funny you mention that.... I was this || close to buying those Pioneer speakers.
    :)
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    vcwatkins wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Re the Pioneer speakers... hahaha... funny you mention that.... I was this || close to buying those Pioneer speakers.
    :)
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    It's true. Emma was there with me twice and the wife gave the OK.

    It was a local seller and he was running pass xs300 monoblocks.

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  • sgmsmg
    sgmsmg Posts: 546
    Excellent job Joey! Another well detailed project. Glad it worked out and had the results you were looking for.
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    edited February 2017
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Re the Pioneer speakers... hahaha... funny you mention that.... I was this || close to buying those Pioneer speakers.

    :)

    It's true. Emma was there with me twice and the wife gave the OK.

    It was a local seller and he was running pass xs300 monoblocks.

    Well that backfired, hehe. This is what I had in mind when I wrote that - trying to goad you into the reveal. :)
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    vcwatkins wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Re the Pioneer speakers... hahaha... funny you mention that.... I was this || close to buying those Pioneer speakers.

    :)

    It's true. Emma was there with me twice and the wife gave the OK.

    It was a local seller and he was running pass xs300 monoblocks.

    Well that backfired, hehe. This is what I had in mind when I wrote that - trying to goad you into the reveal. :)
    91xvXHh1i7L._SL1500_.jpg



    Hahah... don't worry, I didnt get the TAD Ref 1.

    I was pretty close, but I walked away in the end. My room is just not big enough to accommodate such a beast.

    Also, it was kind of expensive.
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  • JuanR
    JuanR Posts: 718
    Joey I just bought a Joule LA-150 and man does this Joule sound fantastic...I am still interested in your comparison between the Cary 05 and the McIntosh, I plan on getting either one of those a few months down the line...

    Nice job with the ceiling panels!

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    JuanR wrote: »
    Joey I just bought a Joule LA-150 and man does this Joule sound fantastic...I am still interested in your comparison between the Cary 05 and the McIntosh, I plan on getting either one of those a few months down the line...

    Nice job with the ceiling panels!

    Juan

    Good to hear! I have not experienced the Joule but I am sure that's good
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited February 2017
    vcwatkins wrote: »
    Now, time to enjoy those new Pioneer speakers. Or did I get that wrong?
    LOL! That would be something....
    What if he got some Sony speakers? LOL! However, I'm not sure who would pay $27,000 for Sony speakers? I guess the same guy interested in the $29K Pioneer / TAD speakers?

    Anyway, man are the Sony SS-AR1 nice sounding speakers.
    http://www.soundandvision.com/images/Sony-SS-AR1.jpg
    http://www.stereophile.com/content/sony-ss-ar1-loudspeaker#1eCQ2E4BiowOCB8g.97

    Anyway, Great job on the overheads Joey!

    Someday, I want to put some funky and artsy treatments on my walls and ceiling.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Those diffusers you have pictures are very expensive man... I wanted one but I'm not sure I'm willing to spend that much for diffusion... though it's artwork.
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  • HzTweaker
    HzTweaker Posts: 785
    Joey_V wrote: »
    It was a local seller and he was running pass xs300 monoblocks.

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    I have that very same Radio Shack issued decibel meter! I feel I must add its the only thing in that room that I have identical..(clears throat) B);):D:)

    This is a great thread Joey! Keep 'em coming.
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Those diffusers you have pictures are very expensive man... I wanted one but I'm not sure I'm willing to spend that much for diffusion... though it's artwork.

    Yeah, anything I end up doing will be DIY for that very reason.
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  • Jaybeez
    Jaybeez Posts: 748
    Great set up and I'll bet your research and time have paid off big time. My listening space doubles as a recording studio so I can't put any holes through the two layers of drywall. I used these with some "L" brackets and it also worked. Yours looks way better though!

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    ^^^ That thing on the left looks like a medieval torture device of some sort! :s

    Looks like it would dig in & grip for all its worth.
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  • Jaybeez
    Jaybeez Posts: 748
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    ^^^ That thing on the left looks like a medieval torture device of some sort! :s

    Looks like it would dig in & grip for all its worth.

    Not to scale! :#
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,724
    Nice work, Joey.

    In the future, instead of using regular toggle bolts consider using "Togglers".
    They're a LOT easier to install and actually stronger. They also make for a smaller ceiling hole.

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    They're available at your big box hardware stores and Amazon.

    https://www.amazon.com/TOGGLER-SNAPTOGGLE-Zinc-Plated-Channel-Fastener/dp/B0051IARUE/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1489208308&sr=1-3&keywords=togglers


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  • gurot1
    gurot1 Posts: 519
    edited March 2017
    I haven't seen these toggles before...seems like they don't require as big a drill bit as the ones I have used in the past.
    Awesome job on the clouds!
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