Took delivery of my 3rd and final system but a problem

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    edited February 2017
    Nightfall wrote: »
    No, THIS is what I want and if I don't get it here's how you're going to get screwed anyhow.

    You certainly don't eff around. I feel bad for the guy.

    Ok, thanks for that. I am sure that's exactly what I intended when I purchased an item for 8/10 but received something different.

    When half of the responses have been just ship it back... I am giving him an option to let me keep it.

    And I'm the bad guy? Thanks bro

    Next time I'll just play possum and let someone else screw me over.
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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    It's getting hot in here... :neutral:
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    edited February 2017
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    It's getting hot in here... :neutral:
    Nah, it's cool. Just a little disagreement. No biggie.

    We can't all agree otherwise it'd be boring.
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited February 2017
    I'm not saying you're a bad guy, Joey. The language you used is going to come off to him as very stand off'ish though. "If you don't comply" sounds like a terrorist/hostage situation or something rather a customer trying to come to an amicable agreement. Kindness will get you further than aggressive ultimatums. Catch more flies with honey than vinegar... all that jazz.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,724
    It would be one thing if the stand merely had a "chip" in it.
    It has, though, a couple of good "chips", one nasty (IMO) crack, and here's something else: The one corner appears too have a bit of a melt factor going for it. It's hard to tell from the pic but that doesn't appear to be just a ding with some fraying. It looks like something hot was laid on/dropped on it.

    No, it's not a case of "If you lay on the ground in front of it at a 33 degree angle and look at it with infrared lightiing, you can kind of see something".
    Nope.
    And that isn't, IMO, any shipping damage. (not a big fan of foam peanuts).

    Seller pay up or buyer give back and seller eat it.

    .... and no soup for him !
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    edited February 2017
    Nightfall wrote: »
    I'm not saying you're a bad guy, Joey. The language you used is going to come off to him as very stand off'ish though. "If you don't comply" sounds like a terrorist/hostage situation or something rather a customer trying to come to an amicable agreement. Kindness will get you further than aggressive ultimatums. Catch more flies with honey than vinegar... all that jazz.

    Gotcha, now I understand.

    Here is the actual email (he first apologizes that he was not able to reply to my emails for 24h):

    "No worries about yesterday's blackout, that's what happens to me sometimes too.

    $250 is a start.

    Here's my thoughts.
    $100 for the speakers not in 8/10.
    $300 for the stands that are not really saleable.

    Shipping them back to you will cost another $100, if you sell and pay for shipping again that's another $100. Plus you'll be listing it a significant discount, maybe $1500 plus PayPal fees etc.

    It's not worth the drama and hassle and what happens if it arrives in even worse condition?

    As you can see, I was nice.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    He responded. He would do $300.
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  • littlewoodboats
    littlewoodboats Posts: 823
    Joey_V wrote: »
    He responded. He would do $300.

    You could have the stand repaired for that with money left over for enough beer to forget it had ever been damaged. How is the B&W logo done? If this stand is still available have you contacted B&W to see if a new base might be available?
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Atleast the Rotel stack made it safe and sound. 6fvjdcl6eh01.jpeg
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    littlewoodboats wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    He responded. He would do $300.

    You could have the stand repaired for that with money left over for enough beer to forget it had ever been damaged. How is the B&W logo done? If this stand is still available have you contacted B&W to see if a new base might be available?

    Already did and nothing.

    I think I'll wait for a pair of stands to pop up and they will be my back up minty stands as I don't plan on reselling these. I'll just use these stands as my ding stands
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,010
    Welcome back the B&W family.
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  • befuddle
    befuddle Posts: 126
    Is there some special engineering deployed in the construction of these stands that would prove difficult to duplicate? I can understand how having the matching stands would contribute to the resale value but I can also see how having them custom remade in the original style using a high end veneer with a quality finish or even a polished out in black could prove to be just as or more so aesthetically pleasing than the original,and there by retain or even increase the resale value for those that can appreciate the workmanship
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Willow wrote: »
    Welcome back the B&W family.

    Glad to be back thanks! The Sonus faber in this house is a little... Romantic and suave. I need something a little more fish and chips and not spaghetti in basil and olive oil sometimes.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    edited February 2017
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    I like the metal couplings and the branding, it just looks cool
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,552
    I like the metal couplings and the branding, it just looks cool

    There it is.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    F1nut wrote: »
    I like the metal couplings and the branding, it just looks cool

    There it is.

    I make no bones about it Jesse
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Some initial thoughts, the Sonus Fabers sound better than the BW PM1. By quite a bit actually. Still good little dynamite speakers.
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    Isn't the Sonus Faber Olympica 3 like 13K retail?
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    edited February 2017
    erniejade wrote: »
    Isn't the Sonus Faber Olympica 3 like 13K retail?

    Yeah, it's not the same ballpark... but I just wanted to share my thoughts about how much better one sounded than the other at that moment in time, while I had both on at the same time and I was posting on here.

    Of course, it's because one is $3300, the other is $13,500... my comment was more of a "wow" moment, rather than a comparison because they are not in the same price level.

    Maybe I just like the SF sound afterall... even more than certain BW speakers that I seem to gravitate to.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Final update:

    Took the $300, I thought about shipping it back but a local friend of mine said that he has dibs on it at full price in case I choose to move on, find a better condition PM1, or if I choose to sell for whatever reason.

    So, I got lucky, he's just waiting in the wings and ready any time. Same guy who bought my Classe CAM600 monoblocks.
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    congrats! that works.
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Sub or no sub?
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    edited February 2017
    afterburnt wrote: »
    Sub or no sub?

    I have this in the garage waiting...

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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Joey not sure what you got there but I am pretty sure you should have taken it out of the box before you plugged it in.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,285
    afterburnt wrote: »
    Joey not sure what you got there but I am pretty sure you should have taken it out of the box before you plugged it in.

    Where there's smoke there's fire
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Lol
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,010
    Joey_V wrote: »
    afterburnt wrote: »
    Sub or no sub?

    I have this in the garage waiting...

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    Is that what I think it is?
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 342
    If there are no punch holes or major dings in the box, and the foam is intact, the damage was caused prior to shipping. Then, your choices are simple; a/ cut your losses and file a full claim as you have clear recourse, taking a hit on return shipping. Or b/ accept the cosmetic damage (assuming none of the drivers are faulty) and move on.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Willow wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    afterburnt wrote: »
    Sub or no sub?

    I have this in the garage waiting...

    kub54juy3kwx.jpeg

    Is that what I think it is?

    What do you think it is bud?
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Bodhi wrote: »
    If there are no punch holes or major dings in the box, and the foam is intact, the damage was caused prior to shipping. Then, your choices are simple; a/ cut your losses and file a full claim as you have clear recourse, taking a hit on return shipping. Or b/ accept the cosmetic damage (assuming none of the drivers are faulty) and move on.

    ONly problem with making a claim is you lose the stands. Atleast with our agreement, I get to keep the stands for 3/4 of what fedex would've paid out since we had the stand box insured for $400.
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