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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,243
    This guy's a known spammer. Spoofs the real KenSwag pretty regularly. Ken, you should ban this guy.
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    I disabled signatures.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    KennethSwauger wrote: »
    The banning is for 30 days and is never anything I prefer to do, believe me.

    Maybe a very concise explanation of the rules of banning is in order? Are warnings even issued anymore? Is the individual's long standing membership and conduct taken into account? Or is it just black and white, no warning, tow the line or be banned?

    There has to be some discretion and judgment used on a case by case instance. People aren't perfect and the fact that he never really has anything negative to add over a 10 year span should allow him a little leeway in that a warning certainly would have had the same effect.

    Just my .02c that don't really matter.

    H9

    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    I apologize in advance if talking about the banning procedure is a ban-able offense. :).

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,666
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I apologize in advance if talking about the banning procedure is a ban-able offense. :).

    H9

    NO FORUM FOR YOU!!!!

    BE GONE >:)
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    "Maybe a very concise explanation of the rules of banning is in order?" There aren't any rules for banning; there are a few easy to understand rules and if a person makes a post that violates one of these rules they can receive a 30 day suspension of forum privileges.
    " Are warnings even issued anymore?" A 30 day suspension is a warning, if there's a second violation of the rules by the same person then the suspension is 60 days. Do it a third time and it's indefinitely suspended.
    " Is the individual's long standing membership and conduct taken into account? Or is it just black and white?" It could also be argued that a long standing member should already know what the rules are and should be less prone to violating them, correct?
    It's very simple, just use a little common sense when you post, follow a few simple rules (which the vast majority do) and you'll never have a problem.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,461
    7 day suspension then 30 day, followed by das boot used to be the way it went... When did that change?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    The warning system as posted in the Rules thread.
    Polk's Warning System...
    The warning system is in place to ensure that the peace is kept. The offenses are as follows:

    1st Offense: A private warning sent via PM
    2st Offense: A public warning issued and the closing of the thread
    3nd Offense: A 7 Day suspension from posting privileges
    4th Offense: A 30 Day suspension from posting privileges
    5th Offense: A LIFETIME BAN

    The warnings have a one year shelf life. They will expire 1 year from the date of the initial warning.

    *Polk Moderators can decide to skip the minor warnings and go directly to the lifetime ban
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,461
    Thanks Jesse... It is what I remembered as well
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,002
    So...we went from 0-4 in a flash ? I dunno man, I don't get it. Color me confused.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    F1nut wrote: »
    The warning system as posted in the Rules thread.
    Polk's Warning System...
    The warning system is in place to ensure that the peace is kept. The offenses are as follows:

    1st Offense: A private warning sent via PM
    2st Offense: A public warning issued and the closing of the thread
    3nd Offense: A 7 Day suspension from posting privileges
    4th Offense: A 30 Day suspension from posting privileges
    5th Offense: A LIFETIME BAN

    The warnings have a one year shelf life. They will expire 1 year from the date of the initial warning.

    *Polk Moderators can decide to skip the minor warnings and go directly to the lifetime ban

    That's different than the answer Ken gave to my post. He's saying the 30 day ban is the 1st warning (if I'm reading it correctly)

    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    edited February 2017
    I think we all get it Ken, but sometimes mistakes in judgment are inadvertent and 30 days is a bit harsh for a 1st offense, unless it's clearly so horrible that it warrants a lifetime ban.

    I know the rules aren't up for discussion and long term members should know better, but none of us are prefect. A 30 day ban for a long term member for a minor infraction seems unjust.

    Anyway, I've stated my piece and I will move on. But maybe you could address the discrepancy between what's posted here on the forum as the procedure vs. what your response to my post is?

    If the procedure has changed perhaps the currently posted rules should be updated.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited February 2017
    In this instance there have been previous deletions and warnings sent via PM over the years. Depending upon the egregiousness of the offense the intermediate warning steps can be bypassed and the membership permanently revoked (such as the person who posted a bird flipping selfie).
    That wasn't the situation, in this case.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    Yer still a big meanie....
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  • maximillian
    maximillian Posts: 2,144
    Dang, banning someone based on a photo makes me want to see it more than ever now. :smiley:
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