time for more Joule Electra

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited February 2017
    LMAO

    Bob, we need more man. Tell us she sounds. Woody is an understatement. Still can't believe you snagged that for 2k, dang.

    I think we are about to see a pic of Bobs left nut on milk cartons in the near future.
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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,039
    I would be tempted to give my left nut for that! At my age, who needs both anyways?
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    Unbelievable snag. Enjoy!
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    Beautiful looking amp!
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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,155
    Damn this amp is impressive. Tubes do matter. Much more detail and imagining. I have this paired with the slp-05 right now.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited February 2017
    WagnerRC wrote: »
    Damn this amp is impressive. Tubes do matter. Much more detail and imagining. I have this paired with the slp-05 right now.

    Indeed they do Sir., hard to go back to SS once you get a taste. I'd also like to hear some impressions paired with the JE 300.

    ....and if I didn't know better, I'd say ....
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    ...by an OTL amp.
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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,155
    Tony today I have the LA 300 hooked up and ready to go. I am willing to bet this will be the winning combination. If the LA brings in more bass it will be killer.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,412
    so whats that push per channel? I seen one like it that had half the power tubes at 55wpc 110w mono.
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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,155
    class a 80 watts
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,412
    very nice thanks
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    WagnerRC wrote: »
    Tony today I have the LA 300 hooked up and ready to go. I am willing to bet this will be the winning combination. If the LA brings in more bass it will be killer.


    We'll see Bob, or YOU'LL see. Either pre amp is a destination piece to get you off the pre amp merry-go-round. Both have their own flavor. I'm really interested to hear your thoughts paired with the JE pre though. If I'm not mistaken I think Judd built that amp to mate specifically with the 300. He had different variations of his OTL amps too, the man liked to tinker.
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  • dhart86
    dhart86 Posts: 1,594
    Hey Bob.....I'm not too familiar with OTL amps. Do these need to drive high efficiency speakers only?
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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,155
    edited February 2017
    Thanks for the post . This amp is fun to play with with all the adjustments. And its glows so well at night.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,549
    Keeping an eye on this thread.

    Although I doubt I'd ever go full tube again, it's nice to read.
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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,155
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Keeping an eye on this thread.

    Although I doubt I'd ever go full tube again, it's nice to read.

    What problem did tubes cause you Joey? just curious.

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,549
    edited February 2017
    WagnerRC wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Keeping an eye on this thread.

    Although I doubt I'd ever go full tube again, it's nice to read.

    What problem did tubes cause you Joey? just curious.

    Full tubes from Cary 05 to Cary 211FE. It was good and ethereal. But when you get up there in SS amps, the tube amps lose out on many aspects.

    My general thinking (at this time and subject to change):

    Tube amps scale up quickly in terms of sound quality to price. A cheap tube amp can smoke a cheap SS amp.

    But as you move up SS amps, they gain on the tube amps and at some point, the tables turn.

    That said, I kept my Cary 211FE SRA amp stands because.... I'm hoping to score a pair of Cary 805AE... Set magic for my vocal recordings.

    I guess let me clarify, it's not that I won't go full tubes again, but it won't be my primary.
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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    Im almost all tubes except for my amp. I think I would Lose my mind waiting for everything to warm up all the time.
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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,155
    The OTL has a quick warm up time.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,549
    WagnerRC wrote: »
    The OTL has a quick warm up time.

    How quick?

    I think my Cary had a 60 second warm up.

    My Boulder has a 45 second warm up
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,270
    My Threshold 250w class A's are 30min to 2hrs, the longer the sweeter
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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,155
    edited February 2017
    The OTL is 10 minutes tops but I agree the warmer the better. This sucker warms my basement room nicely. Just started playing with the adjustable feedback controls. nice option.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,270
    edited February 2017
    What main tubes are in the unit, KT88's???

    Never mind got the answer 6C33-CB
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  • dhart86
    dhart86 Posts: 1,594
    DSkip wrote: »
    dhart86 wrote: »
    Hey Bob.....I'm not too familiar with OTL amps. Do these need to drive high efficiency speakers only?

    An OTL amp is essentially the 'ideal' amp. It doesn't vary its power output due to speaker impedance, so it basically controls the speaker much better. The problem with Output Transformerless amps is they can get expensive quick. Get your read on here:

    http://www.atma-sphere.com/Resources/Common_Amplifier_Myths.php

    Thanks DSKIP.....much obliged
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    Easter is just around the corner Bob. Maybe you can ask the Easter Bunny to bring a basket of nuts to replace what you've lost. lol

    How about a pic of that bad boy glowing.....dang she's a beaut.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,412
    edited February 2017
    tonyb wrote: »
    How about a pic of that bad boy glowing.....dang she's a beaut.

    yea buddy what the heck is taking so long? I'm ready to see neutrons/electrons in action

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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,155
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    I will get a night time shot tonight. It really is a looker.
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  • dhart86
    dhart86 Posts: 1,594
    WagnerRC wrote: »
    Tony today I have the LA 300 hooked up and ready to go. I am willing to bet this will be the winning combination. If the LA brings in more bass it will be killer.

    Can you give us a little more on your thoughts with this ^^^combo. Would love to here a review of sorts Bob......don't mean to be pushy.....but real curious
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  • JuanR
    JuanR Posts: 718
    I'm super interested myself...interested in both Joule and Cary 05 preamps as one of these two may be here in my future....
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  • JuanR
    JuanR Posts: 718
    WagnerRC - I can start making payments on the preamp you don't like as soon as you are ready..LOL!

    Seriously I am definitely interested in both so looking forward to your thoughts...
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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,155
    edited February 2017
    This amp is so adjustable what I want to give it a good workout. I am very pleased with this amp. Now that I found the feedback control that really opens up the sound stage. I have never used a tube amp before so I am in a learning curve right now. I love the bias adjustments, the voltage can be varied and now the feedback control.

    With the Pass amp it was turn it on and go. This is much more fun and involved to play with.

    I won't be selling either amp for quite a while. Thanks

    edit, I would not sell either of these pre amps either. I like both so well.
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