M&k Vs Svs

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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited April 2004
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    All I gotta say is...

    HFMOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Consider this a formal request for ALL of your reviews to be this concise..... :D:D:D
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited April 2004
    Well, there isnt much to say about bass...

    All I know is.......I turn on M&K.....I hear noise

    I turn on SVS........the neighbors hear noise
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited April 2004
    Man I am playing the music at about 50-60db...

    LOW, BACKGROUND volumes...

    The pictures on the other side of my room are swaying back and forth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited April 2004
    Doc,
    I just took the M&K over to its new owner. I set it up, I listened. I waited, I waited.........and there just isnt anything else.

    The PCi 22-31 may play 5db or so louder at 50hz, and 15db louder at 25hz......

    but one thing that computer dosnt measure........its how much bass it spits out and how much area it covers. I was playing bass tracks, and the entire room was just falling apart. Literally, I heard things rattling that have never rattled before. I am very impressed by the accuracy, precense, and its ability to go loud. It went against a subwoofer that is twice the price. And it (the SVS) is twice the sub.

    SVS talks the smack because they can, and they do. They arn't kidding when they say its loud and accurate. This thing controls the room, it shakes it apart. It is accurate and seamless.

    I like it! Bring on da bass!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • howie777
    howie777 Posts: 357
    edited April 2004
    I really hate reading threads like this. I have a M&K 150 sub and think it is amazing! I have a 20x12x8 room and have hit 110 db at 8 feet without even turning it up all the way and with the way the house shakes I don't dare to go any higher. Now, after reading thread after thread about SVS, I want to know what an SVS can do against my sub but I have to buy one to compare them and I really can't justifiy two subs.

    Congrats on the new sub Vr3MxStyler2k3 I have a feeling you made a great choice. Maybe someday I'll cave in.

    Just a note, M&K does make some killer subs, maybe SVS can do better and for less, but I do love my M&K sub. Although I wish I had spent more time in here prior to my purchase. I just NEED to know what an SVS is like after all the threads about them.

    Howie
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited April 2004
    Where you located at?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited April 2004
    It's not about total volume. It's about clean output. How much can the sub deliver at 20-25 Hz before distortion hits 10%. That's where SVS excels.

    You can't measure clean output with your SPL meter. You can measure it with a test rig, and you can certainly hear it and feel it.
    "What we do in life echoes in eternity"

    Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
    Director - Technology and Customer Service
    SVS
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  • howie777
    howie777 Posts: 357
    edited April 2004
    Dr. Spec,

    What does a test rig consist of? A distortion analyzer perhaps? Maybe I can borrow one from work if we have one but I don't think we do and I think they are probably too expensive to borrow.

    I'm going to search the boards for a setup to do a freq sweep. I tried to do one before but the sweep looks horrible. Although the curve doesn't start to nose dive until 14 Hz (which of course I can't say it is clean but it is deep). I took a sweep from 120 Hz at 85 dB then went down to 10 Hz with 2 Hz steps. 120 Hz was at 85 dB and so was 16 Hz then it drops sharply at 14 it was 79dB, 12 it was 72dB then 10 Hz was 53 which is just ambient noise.

    Just to give you an idea of how ugly this looked, 16 Hz was 85 dB, 18 Hz was 76 dB, and 20 Hz was 85 dB. That is the kind of results I saw with 50 Hz hitting the max of 96 dB. I had the meter in a fixed location.

    Howie
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited April 2004
    Well at long last...

    50-60 dB listening? Who'd a thunk that an SVS would save our lad's hearing?

    Congrats Sid.
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited April 2004
    LOL

    Yeah, I turn it up to feel the music...

    I just barely turn the knob now and that is accomplished...

    But when I REALLY crank it, nothing replaces the room falling apart! :D
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited April 2004
    What does a test rig consist of?

    Check the two channel sub thread - I made a post there.
    "What we do in life echoes in eternity"

    Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
    Director - Technology and Customer Service
    SVS
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited April 2004
    Originally posted by Dr. Spec
    Check the two channel sub thread - I made a post there.

    If I can just stop buying speakers and tube testers I might finally get there bud.

    HBomb
    ***WAREMTAE***
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited April 2004
    What tester(s) you got, H?

    I nabbed a nice Hickok TV-7D-U a while back. Only one I keep an eye out for now is a 539C, but finding one on the cheap ain't easy...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited April 2004
    I just got back from my Dad's house and he heard the SVS. He was laughing the entire time! You know when you laugh because something you like just happened? Well he was simply amazed that a 500 dollar sub could do *THAT*.

    I played him some bass songs, and the entire room was just melting away! Killer stuff, without a dobut. I am fully impressed and everyone that comes my way will know what a SVS is! Amazing stuff!

    Thank you Doc again for introducing me to SVS!

    As Liv4fam once said!

    Boom away I say!

    - Sid Da Boom Boom Kid!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited April 2004
    From School Of Rock: Sid wailed out a real "face melter".
    "What we do in life echoes in eternity"

    Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
    Director - Technology and Customer Service
    SVS
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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited April 2004
    Haha, School of Rock. Pretty funny movie, surprised me. Perhaps my favorite part was when he was singing his song to the class, and the lyrics were all about not having rent money and his band kicking him out, etc. Maybe you had to be there. Sorry to go off topic.

    Two Channel Setup:

    Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
    Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
    DAC: Arcam irDac
    Source: iMac
    Remote Control: iPad Mini

    3.2 Home Theater Setup:

    Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
    Center: Klipsch RP-160M
    Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
    AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
    Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
    TV Source: DirecTV Genie
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2004
    what? no web-cam quality pics? damn so dissappointing
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited April 2004
    Ah, you will have to wait till this weekend, I brought the camera but forgot the cable to upload them with! haha

    Its just an effin cylinder......
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited April 2004
    Originally posted by Airplay355
    what? no web-cam quality pics? damn so dissappointing

    If you saw the pics, you'd wish it was web cam quality... :rolleyes:
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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