The Most Famous Speaker in the History of Rock
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... for those who remember the 60's and 70's !!!!
... transition of audio preferences over the ages.
- Remember the JBL 100's and then the Pioneer HPM 100's (200 watt version)
http://audiophilereview.com/affordable-speakers/the-most-famous-speaker-in-the-history-of-rock.html
... have a pair of Pioneer HPM 100's ( 200 watt version ) passing thru. I had the JBL 100's for a few years back in the 70's. Awesome sound for parties. Best bass back then.
Have to admit they still sound great for most Music. BUTTTT they need to be tamed.
...Mellower amps are a MUST. Now just being tested in a HK 6.1 receiver - 2 channel. Next up is B&K pro10mc with B&K ST 200 . Can't wait !!
....... and then in a B&K AVR 307 setup . Welcome in the New Year !!! Lots to do and so little TIME !!
Happy Holidays !!
... transition of audio preferences over the ages.
- Remember the JBL 100's and then the Pioneer HPM 100's (200 watt version)
http://audiophilereview.com/affordable-speakers/the-most-famous-speaker-in-the-history-of-rock.html
... have a pair of Pioneer HPM 100's ( 200 watt version ) passing thru. I had the JBL 100's for a few years back in the 70's. Awesome sound for parties. Best bass back then.
Have to admit they still sound great for most Music. BUTTTT they need to be tamed.
...Mellower amps are a MUST. Now just being tested in a HK 6.1 receiver - 2 channel. Next up is B&K pro10mc with B&K ST 200 . Can't wait !!
....... and then in a B&K AVR 307 setup . Welcome in the New Year !!! Lots to do and so little TIME !!
Happy Holidays !!
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Not a fan of either, even though I own, use, and love a pair of the loudspeakers which directly "inspired" the L-100 (well, more accurately, the studio monitor morph thereof, the 4311 family) -- the Altec Duplex (604E in my case, with Doug Sax' MasteringLabs crossovers).
DSC_5746 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
The L-100 & HPM-100 are rough and tumble loudspeakers -- although I agree, in principle, with your amplifier assessment.
Image from www.audioheritage.org
I have a pair of HPM-1100s (from the next series of "HPM" loudspeakers from Pioneer). They're actually not half-bad with vacuum tube amplification (I used them, briefly, with a Dynaco SCA-35; a bare-bones PP EL84 integrated amplifier).
HPM1100 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
The L-100 and the HPM-100'll both certainly play loud, though. They just always sound to me like they have to work at it. They draw a lot of attention to themselves -- which is not my idea of a desirable trait in a loudspeaker. YMMV, though, of course.
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Oh, also FWIW -- one of my favorite rock test tracks for loudspeaker behavior is the Black Crowes' "Hard to Handle" (from Shake Your Money Maker). There's a fine line between soul-stirring grittiness and ear-gouging cacophony, and that track (actually, most of the album) straddles it. Sounds great on some loudspeakers, and is just about unbearable on others.
Sounds great -- to me -- on the Duplexes.
How's it sound on the Centuries and the HPM-100s?
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Have a pair of JBL 120Ti's that will still hold their own when you 'put the spurs' to em...
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No WAF there
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After the "teen radio shack phase" I had a set of the L100 and then the L150. The L150 about 10 years or so ago I got rid of. Sometimes I think I should have kept them and upgraded the binding posts and crossovers.Klipsch The Nines, Audioquest Thunderbird Interconnect, Innuos Zen MK3 W4S recovery, Revolution Audio Labs USB & Ethernet, Border Patrol SE-I, Audioquest Niagara 5000 & Thunder, Cullen Crossover II PC's.
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Cool Beans Mark..........you're trading in your Altec co-axes for a pair of JBL 100's!!! Listening impressions please
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The L100 was - after all - designed to replace the Duplex in the world's radio & recording studios
http://www.audioheritage.org/html/profiles/jbl/l100.htm
but - yeah - not happenin'
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That they are.
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There are a few JBL components around the house -- two of them are even in use.
DSC_7248 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
DSC_6253 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
Does this photo give any sense of scale? The horns in this latter photo are about 30 inches wide. The 2441 driver weighs about 35 lb.
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Personally I always thought this was the most famous speaker in R&R.
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Personally I always thought this was the most famous speaker in R&R.
as seen elsewhere on this site
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Yep..Stanley's Wall Of Sound..That guy sure had his act together concerning stage reinforcement..way ahead of his time...Pain in the tush to transport though..it was said it took three semi's to haul all that gear...
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To stay on topic
Mostly JBL drivers in the Wall of Sound, too -- although it was also rife with EV diffraction horn tweeters. I can only hope they were T-350s* and not T-35s!
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* Probably T-350s: Bear likely would've spared no expense working with the Dead's money
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They do look like T-350s to me (as opposed to T-35s).
T350
T35
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mhardy6647 wrote: »There are a few JBL components around the house -- two of them are even in use.
Mhardy: I have a few of the vintage JBL components around the house as well, most notably using a pair of 15" JBL Pro Series 2235h low frequency drivers housed in JBL designed FYI sub enclosures. Those babies are nice and totally disappear. Always wanted to try them with some of the Pro Series tweeters and horns such as you depict. -
Had a set of l100's for decades. Fun rock speaker, but flawed.
Ditto the HPM. As soon as my listening expanded, so did my search for speakers.
I even re-purchased a set, only to sell them. At lower sound levels and listening
other types of music, they just didn't cut it.
You did forget to mention the Bose 901 series.
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For those that haven’t heard the new JBL synthesis series, really owe it to themselves to have a listen. And make sure they don’t mind turning it up. They sure are ugly though.
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mhardy6647 wrote: »There are a few JBL components around the house -- two of them are even in use.
Mhardy: I have a few of the vintage JBL components around the house as well, most notably using a pair of 15" JBL Pro Series 2235h low frequency drivers housed in JBL designed FYI sub enclosures. Those babies are nice and totally disappear. Always wanted to try them with some of the Pro Series tweeters and horns such as you depict.
Truth be told, I suspect a pair of JBL woofers is somewhere in my future. The poor Duplex LF units (which are kinda sorta Altec 515s -- kinda, sorta) are far less sensitive in vented boxes than is a 2441 on a 500 Hz horn
I have the JBLs padded down a lot.
Truth be told, Altec 802Ds on those EMILAR horns are b!tchen, but I just kind of
sort of like having those massively purposeful looking 2-inch JBL drivers on there.
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Here's one of my 2235h LF woofers in its enclosure. Those JBL Professional Series were nice.
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yeah, they're beefy -- as were the 515s, I must say.
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Notice any similarity in these early 1980s Pioneer (later TAD) drivers?
HPM1100 woofer front by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
HPM1100wooferrear by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
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OK, thanks to Stereophile we now have a full-frontal photo of the new JBL L100 Classic -- and some wry prose.
https://www.stereophile.com/content/jbl-l100-classic-retro-safety-orange-foam-grill-included -
For those that haven’t heard the new JBL synthesis series, really owe it to themselves to have a listen. And make sure they don’t mind turning it up. They sure are ugly though.
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^^^ I'm with him.
When I look at my Frankenaltecs, that is pretty much what I imagine I see.
Sort of like beer goggles, I suppose.
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For those that haven’t heard the new JBL synthesis series, really owe it to themselves to have a listen. And make sure they don’t mind turning it up. They sure are ugly though.
Those owe it to the Everest series and yes very much eyes and ear candy.
People used to make fun of my JBL HLS610's i used in all positions in my HT, they played WAY above the price i paid for them. There is something about the horns JBL used that don't Ice pick my ears the way Klipsch does.
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Most JBL horns do "ice pick" me
(and Klipsch -- well, the Cornwalls have been gone from our house for a pretty long time)
I'm finally starting to catch on vis-a-vis the sweet, smooth horns, thanks to enablers like Joe Rosen
This being said, I'm open-eared when it comes to the current JBL offerings -- although they're not the super-high-sensitivity JBLs of old (which is a bit of a demotivator for a fleapower guy like me).
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The Klipsch RB5s i had for a while were in no way harsh. Actually quite dark sounding. Tons of bass for bookies and an overall coherent speaker, but the highs were just meh, and I moved em on.
