Speaker wire question

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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,988
    edited October 2016
    F1nut wrote: »
    Your sound will always lack base because you're trying to get the wrong thing. It's bass you want.
    LOL, True!
    F1nut wrote: »
    ...home audio and pro audio are two very different things. Basically, one doesn't apply to the other.
    they have far more in common than you know. See below.
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Pro audio (especially sound reinforcement, as in an auditorium or church) is generally about distribution and often uses (relatively) high voltage (25 or 75V) lines to drive transformer coupled individual loudspeakers
    the distribution you're describing applies if, and only if, in a building w/very long wire runs w/speakers everywhere for say a paging system or Muzak. The 75V (step-up) transformer discussion parallels why the power company uses STEP-DOWN transformers before the juice enters your house. Go to Mackie.com. In their FR-1400 manual you'll find more detailed info on 75V distribution.

    Long wire runs X low(er) voltage* = very low or NO output at the speakers furthest from the amp.
    * w/out step-up transformer.

    A concert hall or arena system is little more than a (MUCH BIGGER, more complex, & louder tri or quad amped) 2 channel system. They have 8, 4, or, unlikely if the speakers are further than ~30', 2 ohms as the final load impedance. Otherwise the amps wouldn't have 8*, 4*, &, 2 ohm ratings* like some home* gear.

    Kenwstr: you're spot-on w/your church's "bass" fix assessment. Going bigger (12 or 10ga) w/large surface contact connections may yield greater improvement. All in good time.

    Tony
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
    Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s
  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,988
    DSkip wrote: »
    Another important factor to consider with home and pro is the noise floor. A louder noise floor is acceptable in pro audio - in home audio, it is where the war of fidelity is fought.

    This is akin to engineers vs. mathematicians. Both have different parameters and neither are wrong, but their approaches are vastly different.
    Yup! Further, engineer=compromiser. Short of paying a king's ransom,, they hafta give up something to get something done, in some cases a price point. Another is fidelity versus raw power.

    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
    Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,646
    Yep, a lot less in common than you thought.
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