What's the difference between these two?

halo

Both are made by MIT.

Both are AVT1.

Both are 75 ohm.

Both are triple shielded.

Both feature gas-injected PE insulation.

Both feature solid-core silver clad/plated center conductor.

Am I missing something here?

Thanks

F1nut

Yes, the digital cable has micro networks in the RCA housing.

msg

Side question - I ordered one of these months ago, and haven't tired it yet, as it arrived with a discolored center pin. Looked heat stressed, probably from the soldering process. It cleaned up a bit with some Deoxit, but still discolored.

Looking closely at these photos, it looks as though these cables may have it, too.

Will this be a problem? I can't really tell whether the plating is affected.

mhardy6647

micro networks...

msg

with nanobots tending them.

mhardy6647

explains the price.

halo

mhardy6647 wrote: »

micro networks...

MIT AVT1 Digital Cable $124.99 (3M) new on eBay. MIT Clearance Center had the AVT1 (1.5M) for $104.99 not long ago (micro networks included).

MIT AVT1 Composite Cable (1M) $19.99 on eBay.

mhardy6647 wrote: »

explains the price.

I guess so!

halo

msg wrote: »

Side question - I ordered one of these months ago, and haven't tired it yet, as it arrived with a discolored center pin. Looked heat stressed, probably from the soldering process. It cleaned up a bit with some Deoxit, but still discolored.

Looking closely at these photos, it looks as though these cables may have it, too.

Will this be a problem? I can't really tell whether the plating is affected.

I just got mine in and I don't see any discoloration.

It sounds very good in my set up, paired with the matching AVT1 speaker cables. I have the AVT2 going from my preamp to the amp. I also have the T2, which are running from my CD/SACD to the pre and I did try them between the pre & the amp but I preferred the AVT2 > T2.

I think the AVT2 2M Composite Video cable is a ridiculously good value. The package shows a price tag of $135.

erniejade

Mit had the digital one on their specials a few months ago for like 60 or 70% off. You should sign up for the close out or discount emails. I picked one up and that's what I am running. It sounds good especially for the $ I picked it up at.

msg

halo wrote: »

msg wrote: »

Side question - I ordered one of these months ago, and haven't tired it yet, as it arrived with a discolored center pin. Looked heat stressed, probably from the soldering process. It cleaned up a bit with some Deoxit, but still discolored.
Looking closely at these photos, it looks as though these cables may have it, too.
Will this be a problem? I can't really tell whether the plating is affected.

I just got mine in and I don't see any discoloration.

Interesting. The center pin on yours is shiny gold plate?
Mine looked darkened/blued. It cleaned up a bit with Deoxit, but now it looks almost as if the plating has faded.

Neither of you guys' cables looks like this?

halo

No, mine does not.

You could order another one just to check it out but I don't know if you need more than one or if the discoloration has any impact on sound quality.

Was your cable brand new and sealed in the original packaging?

msg wrote: »

I ordered one of these months ago.

Neither of you guys' cables looks like this

msg

interesting.
yeah, new from the MIT Clearance Center; wasn't labeled demo or anything. mine seems to look like the ones in the photos you posted, if you look closely at the pins in those photos.

I have a set of S3 IC's with one channel dropping out, and have been meaning to send them in for inspection and repair. I was planning to send this coax in along with them.

thanks for confirming yours is normal.

halo

Lifetime warranty man, take advantage of it

msg wrote: »

interesting.
yeah, new from the MIT Clearance Center; wasn't labeled demo or anything. mine seems to look like the ones in the photos you posted, if you look closely at the pins in those photos.

I have a set of S3 IC's with one channel dropping out, and have been meaning to send them in for inspection and repair. I was planning to send this coax in along with them.

thanks for confirming yours is normal.

halo

msg wrote: »

interesting.
yeah, new from the MIT Clearance Center; wasn't labeled demo or anything. mine seems to look like the ones in the photos you posted, if you look closely at the pins in those photos.

I have a set of S3 IC's with one channel dropping out, and have been meaning to send them in for inspection and repair. I was planning to send this coax in along with them.

thanks for confirming yours is normal.

I got my digital coax on eBay. I got my AVT1 speaker cables on USAudioMart. I got my AVT2 ICs here on the forum flea market. So, no warranty for me

kharp1

Oh dear God! everyone of you missed it...one of them is in a yellow package and the other is clearly more of an orangish color!!!

halo

kharp1 wrote: »

Oh dear God! everyone of you missed it...one of them is in a yellow package and the other is clearly more of an orangish color!!!

In regards to the query, I was referring to the cables themselves, and not the packaging, my good sir. :

Dennis Gardner

From the specs on the package, the center conductor is silver plated while the outside ring is most likely gold plating. Silver always tarnishes unless it is coated, thus your discoloring from the exposure to air.

kharp1

Dennis Gardner wrote: »

From the specs on the package, the center conductor is silver plated while the outside ring is most likely gold plating. Silver always tarnishes unless it is coated, thus your discoloring from the exposure to air.

That's something I've been trying to research a little more here lately. When looking at speaker terminations, as well as IC's, it appears that silver is the better conductor and most say it offers a superior sonic fingerprint, but, what does a protective coating do to it? I noticed that the Furutech, or maybe Furez, offers a Rhodium plated termination. Wonder what that adds, or takes away, sonically? Aside from the obvious sonic differences between yellow packaging versus orange packaging.

Maybe this isn't the place for it, but, if anyone has insight I'd be interested in hear it.

RamZet

I have a number of these MIT cables, they don't sound great.
I think they were really good at being Component cables.

msg

@kharp1 Doug shared this link with me a while back when I was first messing with cables. Scroll to the bottom for info on plating. Not exactly a White Paper, but it may give you a starting point
http://www.furutech.com/technology/

msg

RamZet wrote: »

I have a number of these MIT cables, they don't sound great.
I think they were really good at being Component cables.

interesting. what did you find was missing, and what did you like better?

I've always wanted to try one of the well liked Black Cat Veloce cables, but they were hard to find when I was looking last, and for as much as I'd like to try the new Red Level stuff out, it's a bit out of budget for me.

kharp1

Thanks, msg, interesting read. Love the way folks are quick to offer info and experiences here. This passion truly takes you down a rabbit hole! It can make you crazy at times and I have to stop and ask myself if I'm really hearing what I think I am, or, am I getting caught up in hype. Lots of trial and error...and money...and time...and

halo

RamZet wrote: »

I have a number of these MIT cables, they don't sound great.
I think they were really good at being Component cables.

I would be curious to hear your thoughts as well on what you felt was missing from these MIT cables and what cables you preferred. Not trying to start a cable debate; just interested in your thoughts & experiences.