What is a good matching subwoofer for the SDA series?
Gunther16
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Just wondering what our Vintage speaker community thinks and recommends for use with these old babes?
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Yamaha RXA1030, Yamaha CD-S2100, Yamaha AS-2200, Bluesound node 2i
Polk SDA2btl highly modded
Polk SDA 1C modded
Polk CS350 LS x2
Kimber 8TC
Sony 55" Bravia
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My next sub will be SVS they have a great reputation around here, I'm sure others will chime in.Yamaha RXA1030, Yamaha CD-S2100, Yamaha AS-2200, Bluesound node 2i
Polk SDA2btl highly modded
Polk SDA 1C modded
Polk CS350 LS x2
Kimber 8TC
Sony 55" Bravia
Wish list SVS sub -
Interesting you should say that. Been looking at SVS to replace my old Definitive Powerfield. Hope to get some interesting input here.
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SVS Gunther.Home Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
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A large one!
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Which SDA's are you running? Only using the sub for 2 channel? How much of a spending budget are you on for a sub? Lots of variables here.
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Running 3.1TL sub for HT mostly, like my 2 channel pretty much as is. Got a 15" 500W now but its old and huge. Looking for maybe an upgrade to something that still goes low is tight, fast and accurate. Got to be compatible with the TL's though. Getting a lot of SVS recommends but no size so far. Looked at them and they look awesome but then which one? Choices, Choices. Got to wait awhile anyway, done blew my budget for this year.
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Rel, SVS, and HSUafterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
All the svs subs are great. I would pick up a sealed one if you want fast and tight, Although the ported ones certainly aren't slow and do music just fine. All of their subs go nice and low. Add rythmic and psa to your list, the servo subs work great for music. I would think any of the sub brands listed would blend nicely with your SDA's when tuned/placed properly.2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
Running 3.1TL sub for HT mostly, like my 2 channel pretty much as is. Got a 15" 500W now but its old and huge. Looking for maybe an upgrade to something that still goes low is tight, fast and accurate. Got to be compatible with the TL's though. Getting a lot of SVS recommends but no size so far. Looked at them and they look awesome but then which one? Choices, Choices. Got to wait awhile anyway, done blew my budget for this year.
Call them. Give them your room size, listening preferences and budget and they'll steer you in the right direction. Great CS... -
I am using a pair of subs.
Velodyne for upper bass (it's a ten inch)
Miller & Kriesel for low bass (it's a 15 inch)
Don't need to have them up very high either. Took quite a bit of playing around with all the knobs to get everything 'just right". -
All the svs subs are great. I would pick up a sealed one if you want fast and tight, Although the ported ones certainly aren't slow and do music just fine. All of their subs go nice and low. Add rythmic and psa to your list, the servo subs work great for music. I would think any of the sub brands listed would blend nicely with your SDA's when tuned/placed properly.
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Room size is 15' X 25' X8' No EQ,
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HSU VTF-15h Mk2, closely followed by the VTF-3 Mk5.
More adjustability to tune them to your room, speakers and preferences, more bang for your buck as well.
SVS makes an AWESOME sub, and you can't go wrong, but to my ears they've never really caught my attention. Yes, they go low and loud, and disappear, but the HSU's sound more musical to me.
Keep in mind my impressions are comparing them in very different environments, typically at places like CES, so as always YMMV.
Up
LSi15 LSiC - RX-V3000
Down
LSiM707 - 706c - 702f/x - Dual HSU VTF-15H Mk2
Parasound HCA-3500 - HCA-2003A - Marantz SR7005
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I have been using a Paradigm PW2200 V2 with my 3.1TL's and find it blends in very well.
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Its really hard to beat the bang for the buck of SVS and HSU. Their are other ID companies that make good subs, but none have the staying power of the two big boys, so I would probably stick with them. If you want small, deep and tight, I would save my pennies and go for one of these:
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/uls-15mk2.html
http://www.svsound.com/collections/sealed-subwoofers/products/sb-2000
And there is no "matching" when it comes to a sub, not really. I mean if you have really fast panel speakers then you definitely want sealed subs, but other than that its just about getting the best sub you can afford. The better the sub, the better its going to blend with whatever speakers you pair it with.Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
Okay this is from the same era as the 3.1's which I also own. I'm running a pair of Polk PSW-150's with great success that I got at different times on eBay.
I just wanted to keep it all Polk
You may go another route with as much success and be equally happy.
Two (*or more*) small subs in different corners of the room work to break up the standing waves that every room has to one extent or another. Doesn't matter what brand,but it generally is a good idea to match them. Although that IS NOT a requirement.
Plus judging from the size of your room muliple subs will give you better coverage and more output in the low low bass.
There have been several stories in the hi fi rags about using muliple subs (*up to four*) -
I've thought about going the 4 sub route, just haven't spent the coin yet. Been fairly happy with 2 Epik Empire subs for now. My room is about 3600 cu.ft. that I can close off. Gunther, what kind of budget do you have for the subs?
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Budget? Ha, isn't that the thingy that gets destroyed whenever the rabbit finds the hole? Seriously, no set budget but serious window shopping in progress. Not looking for a budget sub neither a overpriced sub. Looking for a exemplary sub at reasonable cost. So far SVS and REL are on short list.
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They are older and aren't very pretty, but I love my M&K MX125. Very musical and will dig deep. Seamless blending with almost any speaker I have used.SRS 3.1TL
Harman Kardon Citation 5.1
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The biggest baddest sub you can fit into your space.
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Velodyne hgs series but they are serious $$$$.
Klipsch RB81, KG3.5, B&W DM602.5, Polk.
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I am surprised you need a sub. Maybe the crossovers need to be reworked, cabinet treatments, speaker seals and spikes are needed.Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs -
Gunther I looked at your sig and saw just a phono pre. What do you use for your master pre/amp which I guess has the ability to run a sub also. I ran into this a few weeks back by using my h/t and 2chll simultaneously by mistake and my sub was included and sounded great but not so much w/ mixing smalls w/ the 2Bs. If I'm going w/ my 2chl I always audio mute my smalls and still get my sources from my Yamaha RX-V665. The only pre/amp I've had so far that had a sub out was the Sony ES-2000 which formally is a surround processor w/ the ability to go 2chl w/ a sub out. I never tried it because it's a real pain to dial in and I'm using the Dynaco Pat-4 ss pre from the early/mid '70s which has no provision for a sub.
My x-overs were upgraded and I finally raised the 2Bs w/ spikes and still the sub added a lot.2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E
H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-
Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc -
Krell Showcase Pre/Pro, already have a sub, just looking to get something smaller and better. I don't need a sub for stereo listening but when doing Concert Blue Rays or DVD's it really makes a difference in the being there feeling. As for thsmiths post it is obvious to me he isn't reading the fine print. LOL
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Gunther, the SVS PB1000 has great specs. Not too big, and they have a few in the scratch and dent section, for not a lot of coin.Home Theater/2 Channel:
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
dhsspeakerservice.com/ -
Yes, I should have noticed you already have all the goodies and your explanation of on the Concert Blue Rays or DVD's makes more sense.
How big of a room will the sub be used in? LXWXHSpeakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs -
Thanks David, Leaning the SVS way anyway! I'll check them out! Room Dim's 15'X23'X8'.
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Velodyne hgs series but they are serious $$$$.
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Thanks David, Leaning the SVS way anyway! I'll check them out! Room Dim's 15'X23'X8'.
I will measure my room tonight, but my wee little sb1000 fills my basement with bass, with ease, and I only have it at about half.2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.