Vincent preamp in the cart ready to purchase any feedback would be great!

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=VISA31

So I have exhausted myself looking for a tube preamp and think I found a winner, can somebody anybody put in their 2 cents plus recommend me a tube phono preamp to go along with it input on both Please :#
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2 Channel
Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    Decaware!
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,124
    http://www.needledoctor.com/Vincent-Audio-PHO-8-Phono-Preamp?sc=2&category=36638

    Perhaps a matching Vincent Phono Pre will do the trick, that Decaware is to rich for my blood. My decision is keeping me up at night, got to come to a decision right fast.
    Home Theater
    Parasound Halo A 31 OnkyoTX-NR838 Sony XBR55X850B 55" 4K RtiA9 Fronts CsiA6 Center RtiA3 Rears FxiA6 Side Surrounds Dual Psw 111's Oppo 105D Signal Ultra Speaker Cables & IC's Signal Magic Power Cable Technics SL Q300 Panamax MR4300 Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables Audioquest Forest USB Cable

    2 Channel
    Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+

    Stuff for the Head
    JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365

    Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
    Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin B)
  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    Who is it that just got that, @voltz was it?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,124
    Yeah I think Daryl got one but the next model up, perhaps he will chime in. Daryl where you at?
    Home Theater
    Parasound Halo A 31 OnkyoTX-NR838 Sony XBR55X850B 55" 4K RtiA9 Fronts CsiA6 Center RtiA3 Rears FxiA6 Side Surrounds Dual Psw 111's Oppo 105D Signal Ultra Speaker Cables & IC's Signal Magic Power Cable Technics SL Q300 Panamax MR4300 Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables Audioquest Forest USB Cable

    2 Channel
    Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+

    Stuff for the Head
    JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365

    Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
    Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin B)
  • That Vincent looks like a nice piece. What's not to like? Good price, MM or MC, external PS. Pull the trigger. :)
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    Kind of an odd tube 6n16, not sure what you could actually use when rolling tubes. I am always a little suspect of odd tube designations. Haven't done a lot of research on that tube. But my guess is you will be limited to any other choices w/o modification.

    Just an FYI
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    Hybrid, it says? I would presume it's a tube buffer with the Solid State Output stage.

    Neither a true Tube Pre Nor a good pure SS Pre. Probably the best of both world. But probably a bust as well. But but there is 7 glowing review on this atrocity.

    Roll the dice and tell me if you like it. I heard Vincent can sound good but used to be rigged with reliability problems.
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    edited February 2016
    I would get the next model up.
    This one sounds fine but the noise floor was too high for me.
    I went SS pre and I'm holding myself back from getting
    a really good tube phono pre.
    Oh, and no tube rolling for you if you buy it.
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    edited February 2016
    Hey Steve, Sorry I been working a lot of OT, just got home from working 8 more :(

    I had that preamp and sold it to RED only because I upgrade to the SA-31 MKII, it is a hybrid and the tube cant be change out instantly as It is soldier in, I have not open my MKII to see if its the same way or not.

    But you can change the tubes on most of the other Vincent gear! I really like the Vincent stuff and have the maytching Amplifier and phono amp the PHO-8

    The SA-31 Preamp was my first 2 channel preamp and I bought it because the price was right...just no remote :(
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
  • Hasn't Musical Fidelity used a similar, soldered versus socketed, small signal tube successfully in their integrated gear for years?
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    edited February 2016
    I hear that is why they choose the 6N16, so it would last for long time.

    the regular SA-31 has a set of tubes in the output stage..the MKII version has 2 sets of tubes with 1 set in the input stage and 1 in the output stage and a remote.
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,020
    +1 on the PHO-8 phono pre.

    D turned me on to that little 2-piece unit when I was first looking for a phono pre, and I've not been disappointed. I'm using MM, so not sure how it works with MC. I find it to be a pretty clean, sweet and smooth little no-frills phono pre. Very nice build quality, imho, esp. for the cost; weighty, and looks nice in a phono rig. No regrets on that acquisition.
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  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    +2 on the Pho-8, and for that matter, the tube Pho-700. Have 'em both and enjoy them both!
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,124
    http://www.audioadvisor.com/mobile/prodinfo.asp?number=VISV237

    Thanks for the advice everyone, I will probably end up getting this integrated instead going to look around a bit more but find myself wanting this now along with the Vincent Pho-8. I could also see myself with the SA-31MK with Vincents tube phono stage the Pho-700
    Home Theater
    Parasound Halo A 31 OnkyoTX-NR838 Sony XBR55X850B 55" 4K RtiA9 Fronts CsiA6 Center RtiA3 Rears FxiA6 Side Surrounds Dual Psw 111's Oppo 105D Signal Ultra Speaker Cables & IC's Signal Magic Power Cable Technics SL Q300 Panamax MR4300 Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables Audioquest Forest USB Cable

    2 Channel
    Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+

    Stuff for the Head
    JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365

    Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
    Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin B)
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    I think your going to love that Integrated amplifier if you do buy it as @Wardsweb has the SV237 and said he really likes it. I know Skip on some of the others was at a get together at his house and have heard that Amp! plus it is pure class A for the 1st 10 watts :) plus a nice heavy metal remote. (not plastic)

    I have the SA-31MK preamp + SP-331 Amplifier which would cost $3000 so its a pretty sweet deal!
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD