Rtia9 with avr pioneer elite vsx-42 make it clip?

VanDaMan

Hi, just got pair of rtia9 ($799.00CDN at best buy:) so I rushed home and went on eBay and won a pioneer vsx-42 (highest bidder $202.00US)

I have been doing some research, cause I'm new to audio. New hobby for 2016 So I'm planning on bi amping with my pioneer avr, this will give me 80watts per channel, that will give me 160watts high/low frequency.

My plans are to get an emotiva xpa-5 in near future, and a new avr with pre outs which my current avr does not have.

So the question is, will the pioneer vsx-42, 80watt per channel be decent enough to power so the rtia9 won't clip or ruin the rtia9?

Thanks for the help, Van

Thorton

tonyb wrote: »

You can....but I wouldn't go crazy on the volume dial. You'll clip it for sure. I might also choose a different amp too with the 9's later on when your ready.

What he said. Buy an amp. This is from experience with the A9's

F1nut

No AVR will drive those speakers properly and no AVR can actually bi-amp, so don't even bother.

that will give me 160watts high/low frequency.

No, it won't. Not even close.

My plans are to get an emotiva xpa-5 in near future

Inherently bright speakers mated with an inherently bright amp is not the best idea.

Welcome to Club Polk.

F1nut

Don't worry, TonyB will be along to explain in greater detail. The sun will be up soon, so I need to head to the coffin.

VanDaMan

Thanks for answering the question.

tonyb

Ha....What more need be said ?

Please review all the other A9 threads and how to go about powering them. Seems these speakers as of late everyone is interested in.

tonyb

Well then I'm appointing you the official Polk responder for all questions about A9's coming out of the North. I'd have you kneel and anoint you on each shoulder with a Salmon, but Canadians on their knees scare me.

It gets a little repetitious ya know.

tonyb

Goes without saying Ken, but sadly still needs repeating.....daily.

Kinda reminds me back in the day when car speedometers read 160 on the dial. Idiots thought they could bury that puppy and blew up their engines tryin'.

VanDaMan

So should I run these rtia9 on the pioneer vsx-42 80 watt per channel since it fairly weak, or will it clip? I'm planning on getting the Pioneer Elite VSX 82TXS 7.1 Home Theater Receiver 130 Watts per channel in future with emotiva xpa-5

tonyb

You can....but I wouldn't go crazy on the volume dial. You'll clip it for sure. I might also choose a different amp too with the 9's later on when your ready.

Inspector 24

tonyb wrote: »

Ha....What more need be said ?

Please review all the other A9 threads and how to go about powering them. Seems these speakers as of late everyone is interested in.

And yet nobody wants to give them enough good clean power. COUGH...Parasound 3500...

tonyb

Inspector 24 wrote: »

tonyb wrote: »

Ha....What more need be said ?

Please review all the other A9 threads and how to go about powering them. Seems these speakers as of late everyone is interested in.

And yet nobody wants to give them enough good clean power. COUGH...Parasound 3500...

Nobody has their own ComEd sub station in their basement to juice up that badboy.

Inspector 24

Valid point. It does get one circuit breaker all to itself.

tonyb

LOL....circuit breaker ? I have a better vision of Homer Simpson in a Nuclear power station throwing switches.

She's a sweet amp though and frankly your price is a steal. Don't know why someone hasn't snatched it from you yet.

VanDaMan

So I'm planning on buying another AVR. What's receiver would you guy recommend that around $1000 with about 150watt per channel?

Inspector 24

150 will be a little better, but if the Pioneer has pre-outs you can use them to hook up a separate amp that will be a LOT bit better.

Ah tony, how'd you know I like the Simpsons?

F1nut

I don't think there are any AVR's capable of 150 wpc. Even if there were, it's still not like a 150 wpc stereo amp.

Thorton

Van,

As you’ve mentioned, your Pioneer vsx-42 does not have pre-outs. So you cannot add an external amp directly to that AVR. The Pioneer Elite VSX 82TXS does have pre-outs so you would be OK adding an amp to it. So you have a few decisions to make. Based on what you’re using you system for, the members here can make suggestions for you.

Is this for music, HT or both?

FYI. The A9’s are very good dual HT and Music speakers and really shine with a high current amp providing clean power. Congratulations, you got those at a great price.

VanDaMan

Both. Hey is it possible to use the subwoofer preout on my AVR to power the emotiva xpa-2 then hook towers up bridged and hook my towers up in series or parallel to the mono channel?

Thanks for the help guy this my first system

[Deleted User]

No, the sub-out of the receiver is really intended to provide a bass signal to a self-powered subwoofer. If your receiver doesn't have normal right and left preamp outputs the only way to add an amplifier would be to use a speaker level to line level adaptor such as:

http://www.smarthome.com/xantech-sllc1-speaker-level-to-line-level-converter.html

This would connect to the receiver's front right and left outputs and then give connections to the inputs of an amplifier.

VanDaMan

Thanks Ken. Now I don't need a new receiver

[Deleted User]

Good, I'm glad the information was helpful.

VanDaMan

Ken I took back the thanks and gave it to NB

[Deleted User]

I honestly don't believe it would be a problem. The converter is reducing the voltage from the receiver to a much lower voltage to be able to provide 1 or 2 volts for the required input sensitivity of a power amp. The receiver won't be required to develop anywhere near 35watts in order to do this.

VanDaMan

I have pioneer vsx-42 80 watts per channel. Don't have preout that's why I wanted try the sub pre-out that it has.

[Deleted User]

That would only give you low bass sounds, not right and left full range sounds.