Polk RTA 12a's or SDA CRS ?
brentkendall
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Newbie here on this forum . I wont to buy a pair of really nice Polks with really punch deep bass and sweet mids and highs . I have an opportunity to buy either a pair of RTA 12's or SDA CRS speakers with the umbilical cord in tack. I auditioned both but without doing some really long critical listening am having a tough time. I notice that of course the RTAS had really low bottom end bass and the SDA CRS seemed to have a little punchier with the ten inch passive radiator . I have a Marantz 2325 and a room size of 10 by12 . Please help as I have to make a pretty quick decision before 1 or both pair are bought off craigslist . Both pairs are selling local for 450. I thank you to all you Polkies out there for helping me.
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I have SDA 2Bs and CRS+. Both are great speakers. For a 10x12 room I would choose the CRS if they are the single tweeter design. They are about 1/3 the size of the 2Bs making them more practical for a small room.
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Those can also be upgraded to TL's. You'll find fans of both so it's hard to say. $300 2B's or $475 CRS though, I know I'd take the 2B's and use the extra $200 towards upgrading them to TL's.
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- SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
- Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
- Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
- Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
- Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
- SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
- SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
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brentkendall wrote: »I know , im a real pain in the ass with this thread ,lol. Im sorry but just wanted to ask if anyone knows if the RTA12a b or c's can be differentiated by the white serial number sticker on the backs of the speakers on the speaker input area. Thanks very much !
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Agree with nightfall 275 on any RTA series, however nothing less than b's. C's however are the prize. But at those prices I'd pass just on principles. I've had all above mentioned except the CRS'S ( have always wanted to try them) but 300 is end of the world for minty pair inho. He'll for 480. I'd sell my RTA 12c's ( full monty on mods) or maybe not. The only issue is it would be hard to beat the RTA12c's for 480.00 as I've not" heard" a pair of speakers under 1000 That can beat them. I'm sure they are out there, I just haven't had "my" ears on them!
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Are there any major differences between the RTA-12B & RTA-12C? It looks like they removed the fuse from the crossover network and replaced it with a tweeter protecting diode. Did the driver complement change? What makes the C more desireable than the B? Sorry to hijack the thread but there was alot of conversation on the RTA12's and the merits of the latter models.
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$450 for either pair is too much IMO. Welcome to CP though.
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I had the SDA-CRS+ speakers 20 years ago when I needed to downsize.Great speakers and they do go for their size,but they ARE NOT going to give you the low bass that the RTA-12's will give you. Which RTA-12's?
12A,12B, or 12C?
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Agreed. I wouldn't pay $450 for either.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Thanks@ken brydson ,@honestaquarian, and @Nightfall. They are a bit pricey , but I will say they are like new condition in oak for the SDA CRS and Like new for the RTA 12A's . for that price I did see some SDA 2's but they are pick up only in Arizona , about 5hr drive , cant do that ! lol.
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How much should I pay for a minty pair of RTA 12a's ?
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You're welcome @brentkendall and welcome to the Polk Forum.Land of the empty wallets!
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I was actually thinking of buying both , so I can have a pair of Reference Polks as well for bookshelves. For 450 what does everyone recommend for rich deep bass that is punchy and a really nice mid and high to go right along with it . Im on board with Polk's just need to find the right pair for 450.00 . I listened to a pair of RTi 12's and really was underwhelmed . I thought they might be ok for theater with a sub but at 575.00 for the pair I had to pass . The same dealer on craigslist has the RTAS 12s as well as the SDS CRS . Thanks again for everyones help on this . I know everyone is getting ready for Christmas and the Holidays !
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There aren't RTA-12A's. Are you talking about the ones with no risers on the bottom of the cabinets and the tweeters are mounted vertically? Also, which CRS are we talking about? Do they have one or two tweeters?afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Sorry , @NIghtfall , yes , they are not RTA 12a's , just RTA 12's , single tweeter with massive coils on top with speaker screen shell covering entire tweeter area.
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They all look like you describe, is the tweeter mounted vertically or horizontally?afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Sorry,@Nightfall , Yes they are RTA 12s . Tweeter mounted on top of speakers with speaker screen covering them .
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I am assuming the RTA-12's are the originals with the vertically mounted tweeters. I wouldn't be interested in those if I were you. Any generation of the CRS is going to be better, but if they are the CRS with the single tweeter they are definitely going to be better. Just add a decent subwoofer and you will be in business. Do they come with stands? If not where would you put them?afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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@Nightfall , yes they are single tweeter , with stands 475 .00
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brentkendall wrote: »@Nightfall , yes they are single tweeter , with stands 475 .00
The CRS are the one to go for. If they come with the original stands that's actually not too bad of a deal. They can also be upgraded, AFAIK, to TL's. @F1nut ? All single tweeter CRS's can be TL'd correct?afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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@Nightfall , one last question , Do you prefer the SDA 2's over CRS . I know they are completely different speakers and the SDAs are floor standing speakers , but they have gotten accolades from the Polk forum. I also want to buy a pair of Polk Floorstanding speakers. Which pair do you like best . The same guy has a pair of LS90's.
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How much for the 90's?
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Which SDA 2's?afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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@Nightfall , SDA 2 with the passive radiator , 2 mids and tweeter.
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@TennMan , Thanks , appreciate your input !
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Those can also be upgraded to TL's. You'll find fans of both so it's hard to say. $300 2B's or $475 CRS though, I know I'd take the 2B's and use the extra $200 towards upgrading them to TL's.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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@Nightfall, thanks very much , i really appreciate it . Thanks again everyone , Merry Christmas and happy new year to you . I will let you know when i get my Polks !
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Hi , everyone , Im still trying to negotiate a price for a pair of Polks but I have read a lot of people stay away from the Polk RTA 12s and go after the RTA 12a,12b, or 12cs . I am new to vintage POLKs so i dont know about all of the many models within the same line of speakers . Which RTAs have the Peerless Tweeters ? The craigslist guy is asking 480 for a pair of mint condition RTA 12s . How much should I pay for a minty pair and how much for a minty pair of RTA 12a ,12bs and 12cs . Which is the best in the series? I will be buying these if we can settle on a price . All of you have said even 450.00 is way too much for RTA 12s. Thanks again to everyone who has helped me on this thread .
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Go for the $300 SDA 2Bs on eBay. Otherwise the only RTA-12s worth getting into are the B or Cs and I wouldn't pay much more than $275 for a pairafterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Thanks very much @Nightfall and @txcoastal1 , that helps a lot . Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas . Thanks, again !
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I know , im a real pain in the **** with this thread ,lol. Im sorry but just wanted to ask if anyone knows if the RTA12a b or c's can be differentiated by the white serial number sticker on the backs of the speakers on the speaker input area. Thanks very much !