dCS Debussy DAC - Review

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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,939
    What is gap less music? I don't think I see (hear) this issue with my BDP-1, or the Lumin S1, whether I am playing a CD straight through, or bouncing around randomly on a playlist which consists of tracks between 44/16 to 192/24, and some DSD on the Lumin.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

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    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
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  • A "gap" is a space of time between the end of the last song and the beginning of the next. "Gapless" refers to the next song starting immediately at the end of the preceding song. Some DACs prefer there to be a small gap between songs.
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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 9,419
    edited December 2015
    Live recordings and some studio albums, such as Pink Floyd DSOTM, don't sound right with gaps.
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  • DarqueKnightDarqueKnight Posts: 6,671
    edited December 2015
    Same holds for classical.

    JRiver lets you specify gapless or a gap of a specific length.
    "So hot it burns Mice!"~DK
    "Polk SDA-SRSs are hopelessly out of date both sonically and technologically... I see no value whatsoever in older SDA speakers."~Audio Asylum Member
    "Knowledge, without understanding, is a path to failure."~DK
    "Those who irrationally rail against something or someone that is no threat to them, actually desire (or desire to be like) the thing or person they are railing against."~DK
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,939
    I guess I have been lucky so far, as the Bryston BDA-2, Auralic Vega, and Lumin S1 have been fine with this. I mostly listen to classical during the week, both straight through a CD, or random shuffle on the classical playlists with no issues. However, all my classical is just 44/16, so that might be why I don't hear any issue.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1 file player
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 9,419
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I guess I have been lucky so far, as the Bryston BDA-2, Auralic Vega, and Lumin S1 have been fine with this. I mostly listen to classical during the week, both straight through a CD, or random shuffle on the classical playlists with no issues. However, all my classical is just 44/16, so that might be why I don't hear any issue.

    Right, he's saying there's only an issue when the next song is a different format and/or sample rate from the previous song if I am understanding correctly.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • Correct...and only with some DACs.
    "So hot it burns Mice!"~DK
    "Polk SDA-SRSs are hopelessly out of date both sonically and technologically... I see no value whatsoever in older SDA speakers."~Audio Asylum Member
    "Knowledge, without understanding, is a path to failure."~DK
    "Those who irrationally rail against something or someone that is no threat to them, actually desire (or desire to be like) the thing or person they are railing against."~DK
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 32,504
    Not to derail, but man....I must be getting old.

    In my day, "gap" or "gapless" was reference to the distance between a woman's thighs.

    Brave new world I guess.... :)
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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 11,544
    edited December 2015
    DK, Question about your issues with gap/gapless as I am looking at Simaudio's 380D/780D, DAC/Streamer. I came across this review. Do your issues fall somewhere in the mentions of this article?......wireless vs wired vs bit rates

    "As usual I always test network inputs for their ability to accept high resolution audio and play it back gapless. The
    MiND input on the 380D DSD was able to play up through 24/192 audio gapless via its wired Ethernet interface
    without any issues. The newest version of the MiND card also supports DSD playback at DSD64. ThisDSD capable
    MiNDS will ship to consumers later in 2015. When I switched to wireless playback via my 802.11n 2.4 GHz WPA2
    network, I wasn't able to play 4x PCMcontent (176.4 / 192) without significant dropouts. I had success playing 24/96
    material but not gapless. To get gapless playback I had to go down to 24/48 audio."


    Appreciate the detailed reviews, and look foward to your answer

    ---Ron


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  • The article appears to be discussing dropouts while streaming audio at higher sampling rates. My issue is dropouts only at the beginning of a song while the DAC reconfigures to accept a sampling rate different from the previous song.
    "So hot it burns Mice!"~DK
    "Polk SDA-SRSs are hopelessly out of date both sonically and technologically... I see no value whatsoever in older SDA speakers."~Audio Asylum Member
    "Knowledge, without understanding, is a path to failure."~DK
    "Those who irrationally rail against something or someone that is no threat to them, actually desire (or desire to be like) the thing or person they are railing against."~DK
  • asindcasindc Posts: 85
    DK,

    Thanks as always for the thorough and informative review.
    Two-Channel System:

    ANALOG AUDIO CHAIN:
    Turntable/Cartridge: VPI CLASSIC 3/Ortofon A95...
    Phono Pre: ASR Basis Exclusive HV——————>

    DIGITAL AUDIO CHAIN:
    Server: ANTIPODES CX...
    DAC: CARY DMS-600—————————-———->
    Disc Player: CARY CD 306 SACD PRO—————>

    Pre-Amp: ====> Cary SLP-05 (Ultimate Upgrade Edition)

    Amplifiers: Clayton M-300 monoblocks
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