DAC for a Hi-Fi System
sfosselman
Posts: 184
Well as some of you know I have just purchased a Belles 21a tube preamp to go along with my Parasound HCA-1200ii, Polk SDA 1C's, and Sonographe SG-3 TT. I do believe (for now) I am set for analog audio. Now if I wanted to expand into the digital world I would need,(this is where you guys come in), an external DAC to bypass the worthless one in my laptop. I do have a small HRT Microstreamer I use on the go for headphone listening sessions but I feel that would not due the home system justice...Any info or advice would be greatly appreciated...Thanks
Polk SDA 1C Upgraded, Eastern Electric Minimax Supreme DAC, Parasound HCA 1200ii, Belles 21a Preamp, Rotel RSX-1056, Matricom G Box Q, Blue Jean & Signal Cable interconnects, Sonographe SG-3 TT, Panamax M4300-PM
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Thanks for the offer....I'm looking more for an external DAC only to connect to the preamp...My budget is around $500 give or takePolk SDA 1C Upgraded, Eastern Electric Minimax Supreme DAC, Parasound HCA 1200ii, Belles 21a Preamp, Rotel RSX-1056, Matricom G Box Q, Blue Jean & Signal Cable interconnects, Sonographe SG-3 TT, Panamax M4300-PM
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With DAC technology moving so rapidly, I am looking for a DAC to do my home system justice in regards to playback from my laptop, but not break the bankPolk SDA 1C Upgraded, Eastern Electric Minimax Supreme DAC, Parasound HCA 1200ii, Belles 21a Preamp, Rotel RSX-1056, Matricom G Box Q, Blue Jean & Signal Cable interconnects, Sonographe SG-3 TT, Panamax M4300-PM
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I'd recommend emo DAC but we know how that goes!
that iFI stuff is interesting but I have no experience with it.
If you have a MAC bitperfect is mandatory and was well worth it
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This is what you want, right here. Those wood panels make it sexy, if I do say so myself.
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/marhddac1/marantz-hd-dac1-headphone-amplifier-with-dac-mode/1.html
If you decide to buy headphones in the future you'll be all set.
afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
This is what you want, right here. Those wood panels make it sexy, if I do say so myself.
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/marhddac1/marantz-hd-dac1-headphone-amplifier-with-dac-mode/1.html
If you decide to buy headphones in the future you'll be all set.
Earlier this year, I took the family on vacation in Florida and stopped by the Accessories4Less office/warehouse. The owner and staff are very nice people and they gave me a tour of their facility. I would not hesitate to purchase from them again. -
If/when the SACD player I have sells, I will be getting one of those in for demo. I really need to see how they stack up for the money.
I Could see Marantz HD-DAC1, Ampino Stereo Amp, Usher 6311/6300 making a nice package
Hmmmm2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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Looks very sleek but has some unneeded extras that bring up the price....headphone amp and preamp....I'm looking for just a high quality DAC I can hook to the BellesPolk SDA 1C Upgraded, Eastern Electric Minimax Supreme DAC, Parasound HCA 1200ii, Belles 21a Preamp, Rotel RSX-1056, Matricom G Box Q, Blue Jean & Signal Cable interconnects, Sonographe SG-3 TT, Panamax M4300-PM
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Take the money you have for a DAC now and add to it for a month or three. No? Then:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AudioQuest-DragonFly-1-2-Asynchronous-USB-DAC-/161864368488?hash=item25afde4168:g:9E8AAOSwFnFWDq0Pafterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
So $500 is not going to cut it huhPolk SDA 1C Upgraded, Eastern Electric Minimax Supreme DAC, Parasound HCA 1200ii, Belles 21a Preamp, Rotel RSX-1056, Matricom G Box Q, Blue Jean & Signal Cable interconnects, Sonographe SG-3 TT, Panamax M4300-PM
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As always check the Essence DAC(good reviews) or a TEAC. That is my experience. My first DAC was an Audio Alchelmy DAC in the box, love that thing. I do still have it but I need a power supply for it. Also Oppo does a great work.
CheersHTAVR-Pioneer SC99XPA-DR3 Differential Reference AmpPolk R-700Rear- RT150Side- RT150Center-CSi5Sub-Rythmik audio F25Player- Panasonic DP-UB9000Projector- Optoma CinemaX P2Screen- Silver Ticket Products STR Series 6 120"Audio Room 2ch rig.Cary AE-3, Onkyo M-504, Marantz SA8005, Azur 851NWharfedale - Linton, SVS SB12-NSDMinis Forum PC (streamer) and Panamax MX5105Headphone rig;Schiit JOTUNHEIM and different headphones.Samsung 42" flat screen TV. -
Look for used Eastern Electric Mini Max Dac or Dac Plus. You won't be disappointed. Read the reviews and user reviews. Sabre chipset, tube or solid state output, lots of inputs, excellent design and build. Excellent analog and power supply section.
Do some research, it's a winner
Cheers
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Peachtree's DACiTx is a solid entry level sub-$500 DAC as well as the Cambridge Audio DACMagic 100..."Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
Look for used Eastern Electric Mini Max Dac or Dac Plus. You won't be disappointed. Read the reviews and user reviews. Sabre chipset, tube or solid state output, lots of inputs, excellent design and build. Excellent analog and power supply section.
Do some research, it's a winner
Cheers
H9
Brock, I think his budget is a nickel, I don't think the Mini Max sells for that even used.
Depends too on what you want the dac to do/decode. For a basic dac, the PS Audio dl3 used are well in his budget and offer up some good sound. Teac dacs should definitely be on your radar also. The Essense dac, Cary Xciter, Audio-gd, Arcam Rdac, Music Hall, Musical Fidelity M1.....Though with the other associated gear might bring a tad too much warmth to the table.
I think the Cambridge Dac Magic for the price brings a lot to the show too. So many dac options out there, it's really a matter of flavor and synergy.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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I use the HRT Music Streamer HD and am very pleased with it. I have one in stock, $499.95 minus your 10% Club Polk discount = $449.96 shipped. PM me if interested.Sunfire Theater Grand IV
Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature
SRS 2.1TL
SDA 2BTL's
CSiA6
FXiA4
FXiA6
SDA 2A's
Monitor 10A's
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Well....I took you up on your suggestion @heiney9 and went for the Eastern Electric Mini Max Supreme...I was able to get it at a price I could not refusePolk SDA 1C Upgraded, Eastern Electric Minimax Supreme DAC, Parasound HCA 1200ii, Belles 21a Preamp, Rotel RSX-1056, Matricom G Box Q, Blue Jean & Signal Cable interconnects, Sonographe SG-3 TT, Panamax M4300-PM
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Attaboy! Now work some overtime,,,we have to start tube rolling in the Belles!JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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sfosselman wrote: »Well....I took you up on your suggestion @heiney9 and went for the Eastern Electric Mini Max Supreme...I was able to get it at a price I could not refuse
Good choice, a musical piece that should gel well with the Belles. I'm impressed by your decision making, your putting together a super sweet system there. Rock on my man, let us know how it all sounds.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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NM, I see the OP took the plunge
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
sfosselman wrote: »Well....I took you up on your suggestion @heiney9 and went for the Eastern Electric Mini Max Supreme...I was able to get it at a price I could not refuse
Ha! That's awesome!! You will love it, for sure! That Belles is sweet too! The Belles was a contender when I was looking. I eventually got the EE Mini Max Pre.
H9
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
I will give my feedback as pieces come in... Let the tube rolling begin!Polk SDA 1C Upgraded, Eastern Electric Minimax Supreme DAC, Parasound HCA 1200ii, Belles 21a Preamp, Rotel RSX-1056, Matricom G Box Q, Blue Jean & Signal Cable interconnects, Sonographe SG-3 TT, Panamax M4300-PM
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see the preamp is out for delivery. when you turn it on there is a warm up period where the remote will not work, so don't panic.Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
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see the preamp is out for delivery. when you turn it on there is a warm up period where the remote will not work, so don't panic.
Interesting....so the old girl is a Jewish pre amp ?HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I'm very happy with my Emotiva XDA 2 that I bought directly from Emotiva for $200, during a half off sale. It's got volume control, remote, input selection, and headphone out so it's really a preamp/dac/headphone amp combo.
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Why dont you skip the PC and buy a media server, like something from Autonomics.
http://www.autonomic-controls.com/products_hardware_mirage_MMS-2A.php
McIntosh version
http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Products/pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=mediastreamers&ProductId=MB100
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I specifically wold like to stream Kodi, if that is available for these servers it could be a viable optionPolk SDA 1C Upgraded, Eastern Electric Minimax Supreme DAC, Parasound HCA 1200ii, Belles 21a Preamp, Rotel RSX-1056, Matricom G Box Q, Blue Jean & Signal Cable interconnects, Sonographe SG-3 TT, Panamax M4300-PM
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sfosselman wrote: »I specifically wold like to stream Kodi, if that is available for these servers it could be a viable option
The problem with that is, a dac is only going to give you 2 channel. Streaming 5.1 to a 2 channel dac isn't going to work. Unless you don't care and the Kodi lets you adjust the output to 2 channel.
This is why many build their own HT PC's. Kodi by itself isn't on par with the gear you just bought imho.
Everything you just bought revolves around 2 channel listening, not movies. You might have been better served with a HT processor like a Cary cinema 12, Arcam, Anthem, etc. Which all would be great for 2 channel also and have pretty good dacs in all of them too.
You could also get a good receiver to handle the movie part from the Kodi, and use the Belles with that by it's HT pass thru.
Point is, if you want to do surround sound for movies coming out of the Kodi, you need something to decode it. A receiver, a HT processor....a dac alone won't cut the mustard.
HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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The plan may be to use thr amp for two channel (through the Belles 21a pre) and 5 channel with the HT bypass to my Rotel AVRPolk SDA 1C Upgraded, Eastern Electric Minimax Supreme DAC, Parasound HCA 1200ii, Belles 21a Preamp, Rotel RSX-1056, Matricom G Box Q, Blue Jean & Signal Cable interconnects, Sonographe SG-3 TT, Panamax M4300-PM
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Is this for one system or 2 separate systems ? If for one, why can't you use the 5 channel amp and do away with the 2 channel amp ? You'd have problems connecting both amps to the same speakers.
Maybe I'm just confused as to what your trying to accomplish.... it is early.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Haha..no worries. I would be using the 5 channel for the speakers and the parasound for sub duty through the receiverPolk SDA 1C Upgraded, Eastern Electric Minimax Supreme DAC, Parasound HCA 1200ii, Belles 21a Preamp, Rotel RSX-1056, Matricom G Box Q, Blue Jean & Signal Cable interconnects, Sonographe SG-3 TT, Panamax M4300-PM