Who's using Knukonceptz speaker wire?
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Looking for some feedback. What do you think? Why did you go that route? I'm debating my next speaker wire buy.
Too many good quotes to list..waiting for some fresh ammo.
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Looking for some feedback. What do you think? Why did you go that route? I'm debating my next speaker wire buy.
What length and budget are we talking ? Nothing to me stands out about the wire you mentioned, aside from being budget friendly. You can get a way bigger bang for your buck by buying used.
http://www.hifishark.com/HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I'm just looking at bulk 100ft rolls of 10 gauge stuff. Prefer to stay under $200. No banana ends or any finishing is needed. I can do all that stuff myself.Too many good quotes to list..waiting for some fresh ammo.
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There is really no difference between that and any other budget wire other than it has pretty blue pvc sheathing instead of clear or pinkish pvc coating. I did see on their website where some is tinned strands. The tinned stranded stuff will have 1 thing going for though. It will not turn green in several years like all the other pvc coated budget wire I have used from say parts express. I also seen some that was twisted pairs and quad twisted pairs but still it has that pvc coating that seems to react to copper after some years.
I switch to Canare and have never had that problem with it.
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I'm just looking at bulk 100ft rolls of 10 gauge stuff. Prefer to stay under $200. No banana ends or any finishing is needed. I can do all that stuff myself.
100 ft rolls....why so much ? Must be one heck of a room you have there. lol
For surrounds, I can see you using standard 10-12-14 gauge, but the front 3 need something better, especially for music. At 2 bucks a foot, doesn't really matter what you get, it's all going to be roughly the same.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
If you are going budget I would do belden, or find some audioquest bulk rolls. I use belden to my rear surrounds. I used to make my own cables using bulk belden, some nice tech flex, bananas and pretty heat shrink.2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
I have their wire in HT setup and am very happy with it for that. It's very high strand for the gauge, it's extremely flexible and the oldest stuff I have is about 3 years and there's no "green" showing.
I compared some to the Reality cables I am using in my bedroom setup and honestly can't hear any real difference, but, having said that, most of my use is movies/TV and not music.
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I would go with Doug's Furez cable http://douglasconnection.com/Furez-10-AWG-2-Conductor-Speaker-Cable-Raw-FZ102.htm made a big difference from the Mono Price cable I was usingWhen I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
I used the Knukonceptz 10 gauge for a new SDA cable for my 2.3's.
I'm pretty sure Westmassguy uses it also for his SDA cable upgrade.
It's OFC so I wouldn't worry about that whole turning green thing.
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I'm no fan of fly by night wire companies. I have seen them for years. I much prefer to put my wire needs in the hands of the tried and true tested companies that stand behind their products and have an amazing reputation in the industry.
As a Home Theater Installer, and have been to countless trade shows and Installer Trainings, I have never heard of this company come up or anyone anywhere using their products.
Sure they could be fine and on par with many others but why venture out into the unknown when others have mastered and keep mastering the art of wire?
As suggested above, I'd strongly suggest going with Audioquest Flx series In wall rated speaker cable. For most speakers running in small, 14 gauge is all you need up to 50ft runs full rand and up to 100 ft running in small.
12 gauge wire can be made easily with FLX 14-4 double up. It's actually like 11g and you can run high powered amps over those lengths full range. When running in small , there is no issues at all.
Not to mention I have Audioquest FLX series 14-2 runs to my surround speakers which are about 40 feet or so each run, over 10 years old and no signs of oxidation when I annually take down my surrounds for cleaning the wall and checking the connections. Yeah I'm pretty anal like that but I like to test over long periods of time to make sure what I learn isn't bull crap. I have access to just about everything made and I choose Audioquest for the u canny ability to be put into any system and work flawless for years and years un colored both sonically and physically .
Audioquest IMO is the only wire to buy period.Dan
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Agreed Skip, the company has been around a while and certainly are no fly by nighters.
Dan, that's your opinion, and while Audioquest is a rock solid company, many better cables exist, even online.
I'll still maintain that if your budget is 2 bucks a foot for 100ft....you won't find much difference in build or sound quality between brands.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I just picked up some KnuKonceptz cable boots/pants, but have never tried their cable.
I agree that lesser wire is probably fine for your surrounds, and for the front three, maybe consider something better. I, too, can recommend Douglas Connection. I'm building some of my own with the Furez cable that Doug carries, and I like this stuff a lot so far. They seem pretty smooth under initial evaluation and should only get better. I'll probably be using Furez for my surrounds when I get around to setting them up.I disabled signatures. -
Douglas Connection is intriguing. I'm sure I'll give them a try in the future. I just ordered a bunch of KnuKonceptz Kord @10 gauge however, so we'll see how that turns out. I've used their other products in the mobile audio world..from power wire to speaker wire, and I've always been impressed with their build quality and sound. They are among the top tier producers (If not THE top name) in mobile audio. Their entrance to the HT world is relatively new, but they're a welcome name IMO.Too many good quotes to list..waiting for some fresh ammo.
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I made some of Dougs cables, it's not hard to make your own http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/165155/new-furez-cable-wow#latestWhen I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
I made some of Dougs cables, it's not hard to make your own http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/165155/new-furez-cable-wow#latest
Did you bake them in your oven?
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Gatecrasher wrote: »I made some of Dougs cables, it's not hard to make your own http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/165155/new-furez-cable-wow#latest
Did you bake them in your oven?
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LMAO !! It's too early for that.
Besides...he's more a deep fry type of guy. lol
HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
no, I like SushiWhen I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music