Break in: what do you folks think?
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Well I did not question your assertion so you did not have to say it again. Do you think that running equipment for extended periods hinders the break in?
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Yeah, burnt is good people. He makes me laugh, great sense of humor and wit.The best way to predict the future is to invent it.
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afterburnt wrote: »Well I did not question your assertion so you did not have to say it again. Do you think that running equipment for extended periods hinders the break in?
really depends after I recapped my Sony ES CD player and SDA's I put in a CD and just let the same CD play and play for about a week every night after work I'd sit and listen for 20-30 minutes to that same CD. YES I did hear changes thorough out the week good bad and ugly for the first days then much better. Unless stormy I most Fridays turn on my gear and turn it off Monday morning before I leave for work. -
When I got my new preamp amp I did the same. Turned it on, and left it on 250 hrs straight. Did the same after installing new interconnects for 150 hrs.The best way to predict the future is to invent it.
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Generally, when breaking in new audio pieces, gear or wires, I run an 8 hour iPod overnight, and shutoff the gear in the mornings, then repeat again the next night when I'm done listening for the day. So I get both the periodic listening break in - and shorten my total time by running it overnight when I'm sleeping as well. I'm a believer.VA HT HK AVR20II, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Polk Audio RC80i / Polk Audio CSi3, 60" Panasonic Plasma, Nordost / Signal Cable A2 / Wireworld / Pangea / Magic Power
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afterburnt wrote: »afterburnt wrote: »No I did not. The excerpt that I posted was the first time that I had seen such a theory expressed, so I asked for your guys thoughts.
Fair enough.
Afterburnt did not write that
LOL! Wait, what?afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Guys, this one is not a troll. Please give him some leeway. He has a sarcastic nature that is sometimes hard to decipher via the internet. My old man has the same issue, just with him, its in person.
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Guys, this one is not a troll. Please give him some leeway. He has a sarcastic nature that is sometimes hard to decipher via the internet. My old man has the same issue, just with him, its in person.
Thanks Skip, that's what I was trying to tell em %^) -
BTW I stopped playing my stuff for the dog all day waiting to hear what you guys thought.
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Thirty years ago I had a knowledgeable electronics guy tell me, when you buy a new piece of equipment, leave it on for a week to get it good and hot. That way if something was defective, it would likely fail while it's still under warranty. Always made sense to me, but may not apply today.McCormack DNA-1 Amp, Parasound Halo P5 Pre Amp, Denon DVD 2900 CD player, Adcom GDA 700 DAC, VPI Traveler TT with Denon 103R cartridge, Lounge Audio MKiii phono pre and Copla SUT, Polk SDA SRS 3.1 TL speakers, Tributaries series 8 IC's and speaker cable.
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@xcaprii79 all of the above
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afterburnt wrote: »Do you think that running equipment for extended periods hinders the break in?
Hinders break-in? No. I wouldn't sweat it though. Just run your equipment normally, and allow break-in to happen over time.
Keep in mind, when I use the term "components" I'm talking about capacitors, resistors, inductors, opamps, etc.
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afterburnt wrote: »afterburnt wrote: »No I did not. The excerpt that I posted was the first time that I had seen such a theory expressed, so I asked for your guys thoughts.
Fair enough.
Afterburnt did not write that
LOL! Wait, what?
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afterburnt wrote: »Do you think that running equipment for extended periods hinders the break in?
Hinders break-in? No. I wouldn't sweat it though. Just run your equipment normally, and allow break-in to happen over time.
Keep in mind, when I use the term "components" I'm talking about capacitors, resistors, inductors, opamps, etc.
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Afterburnt;
I didn't mean to come off like a dkhead to you, I was frustrated with a few claiming that electrical components don't "break-in" which again is well documented, and they are speaking from their hind-quarters.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2 -
Afterburnt;
I didn't mean to come off like a dkhead to you, I was frustrated with a few claiming that electrical components don't "break-in" which again is well documented, and they are speaking from their hind-quarters.
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Sorry bout that steve, that was uncalled for
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Dose anyone know which particular components generate the most heat,how high are those temperatures and is there very much fluctuation or are they pretty much stacic while in use?
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afterburnt wrote: »Afterburnt;
I didn't mean to come off like a dkhead to you, I was frustrated with a few claiming that electrical components don't "break-in" which again is well documented, and they are speaking from their hind-quarters.
Don't worry about it. I come from a long line of dkheads. That makes us like brothers.
That's pretty funny actually..2 channel:
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Do you break in a pair of shoes or do the shoes break in your feet?
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"Hinder break-in"? Like playing "Lips of an Angel" in a continuous loop for days on new equipment? Whoa...is there a scientific basis that this would actually improve SQ?
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So I was talking to Phil Lynott today and asked what he thought of breakin.
He started talking jailbreak and I said, no no, break IN not break OUT. I
asked him over for a listening session and he said he couldn't make it,
cuz the boys are back in town. I guess we are not any closer... -
rednedtugent if you need to talk you can call me, I am not a psychiatrist I just play one on TV. Thank you in advance
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did you have to break in your Ouija board before talking to Phil?Polk Lsi9
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I am wondering about thermal stress on components and cycling them on and off frequently and how this could effect component performance and life span. I know temperatures generated by some components are a function of the load and vary accordingly. I am trying find out if certain components reach operating temperature and generally maintain that temperature or if some have wide variations while they are in use as opposed to just being energized.
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11steve, I dont think that "Ouija" is a word, there are too many vowels. check your work and get back to me
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afterburnt wrote: »I am wondering about thermal stress on components and cycling them on and off frequently and how this could effect component performance and life span. I know temperatures generated by some components are a function of the load and vary accordingly. I am trying find out if certain components reach operating temperature and generally maintain that temperature or if some have wide variations while they are in use as opposed to just being energized.
Thanks
Dave
The only change that I have felt with the stuff I run is minimal but I have never tried to measure it.
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I was told directly from McCormack that the believe their amps should be left on 24 hours. The tech cited specifically thermal and stress issues with powering on/off, and that the transformer, being a large hunk of copper, would perform at its best if left fully energized. It is their thought that powering on and off will, in fact, reduce lifespan of certain components.
Also, he said the idle draw and temperature was not that significant, especially in the day and age of so many electronics in homes which are never truly powered down. My amp has been on for about a month now, and the heat sinks, at idle, or barely warm.Polk Lsi9
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@11tsteve, that is kindda what I was thinking and I never think (at least not before posting). Everything that I have is SS and I heard that PC's like to be left on all of the time and I have done that for a long time now. Anecdotal evidence suggest that it is right, at least regarding PC's
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