Classe M600: Alright! The twins have arrived!
Joey_V
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Alright! The twins have arrived and just in time! Left work and got home just in time for my amps to be delivered. They appear nearly unscathed... boxes looks quite pristine.
Now.... how to get them upstairs....
Now.... how to get them upstairs....
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
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Pio Elete Pro 520
Panamax 5400-EX
Sunfire TGP 5
Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
PS Audio GCPH phono pre
Sunfire CG 200 X 5
Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
Ft - SDA 1C
Not being used:
RTi 38's -4
RT55i's - 2
RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404 -
Alright the move continues...Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
are we getting a report from you tonight?
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I also received a pair of Monoblocks today! But, they were not delivered strapped on a pallet!
WOW, what more can a man say? Hope they do those Strads justice! -
Alright I am on a roll... Literally...
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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Schweet nice real nice, and your one handing it with a dolly. It's probably to late to tell you to put on some steel toed boots.Home Theater
Parasound Halo A 31 OnkyoTX-NR838 Sony XBR55X850B 55" 4K RtiA9 Fronts CsiA6 Center RtiA3 Rears FxiA6 Side Surrounds Dual Psw 111's Oppo 105D Signal Ultra Speaker Cables & IC's Signal Magic Power Cable Technics SL Q300 Panamax MR4300 Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables Audioquest Forest USB Cable
2 Channel
Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+
Stuff for the Head
JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365
Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin -
Alright I made it...
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Alright... Finally one open
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
And I became good by the second box
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
The Classe amps are very nice! But if two of those is not enough, four of these are for sale by the owner (me).
I will fly in to help you move 140lbs each amp getting upstairs.
HT setup, Joey?
Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin: -
Lol...Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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And we find temporary spots...
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
I'm surprised something of that caliber is made in China. I'm not saying anything bad about those amps, I could only dream of owning something like them. Just surprised.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
Well ... how do they sound?
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They sound different. Very different. I like in your face of the SS
But the mellow and natural sound of the tubes is so relaxingMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
looks like you need some power house tube monoblocks
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“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
They sound different. Very different. I like in your face of the SS
But the mellow and natural sound of the tubes is so relaxing
You weren't expecting them to sound like tubes....were ya ? Try bi-amping with the tubes up top and see how you like it. Though that makes for some expensive amperage for one set of speakers.
This is the dilemma for some of use old tube guys. Tubes have that wonderful tone that really is hard to beat for mids and highs, but lack some on the lower regions. SS shines down low, but loses some luster in the highs and tone. Very few amps in both camps can get it all right.....and the better your speakers and associated gear, the more these things become apparent.
I've not heard the Dags or newer Boulder amps so I can't comment on their sound. Pass amps are pretty frickin' good, love the McCormacks for budget minded folks. They bring some of that tube tone and musicality with the SS slam in the lower regions most of us crave.
What cables are you using Joey ? At this level, they are going to make a huge difference.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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First thing I noted with the Classe M600 was 2 things:
1. I had a preamp tube noise that I could hear when the system is on standby, something I checked again with the Cary 211FE and could not hear.
2. The vocal density was a bit different. The 211FE had a bit more sensualness to it, but the M600 was better at definition. Like for instance, on one of Ed Sheeran's songs, first track on his album X... there is a clear "echo or reverb" noted on his voice. Clearly notable on the M600 but not on the Cary 211FE.
3. I felt like the bass was obviously better on the M600.
4. I felt like projection forwards was better on the M600.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Joey - those look awesome. Give them some time to settle in and your ears to adjust to the new sound.
....and if you decide they aren't what you thought give me a shout. I would like to give them a run in my system.2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Silver 4+ Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon and Hurricane Power Cables -
[/quote] What cables are you using Joey ? At this level, they are going to make a huge difference.[/quote]
Hopefully not the RCA cable seen laying on the floor between the amps in the picture above. LOL
Great looking tube equipment.SDA SRS 2.3TL's
Silk Audio MS-90-BT integrated tube amp
Yaqin MS-20L integrated tube amp
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LOL.....good catch, hope not either.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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I am not a fan of Classe amp, but these amps look so beautiful. Hopefully, they work out well for your system.
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michaeljhsda2 wrote: »
Hopefully not the RCA cable seen laying on the floor between the amps in the picture above. LOL
Great looking tube equipment. [/quote]
Nope nope... that was residual from the harman kardon receiver that I karma'd out.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
I am not a fan of Classe amp, but these amps look so beautiful. Hopefully, they work out well for your system.
I hope so too.. first listen is good. Won't do much better for the price I think.
I am on a self imposed ban from buying anything for a while... I think I have enough gadgets. Gonna start playing around with combinations. Will pop in the BW 802 Diamonds and see how they sound with the combo tube pre and classe m600 monos.
But yep, the mono Classes do not sound like typical SS amps. It's a very palpable presentation that reminds me of some tubes... though that could also be the tube 05 preamp.. lol.
either way, better at resolution than the 211FE...
... but then when I listen to the 211FE I'm like... I... can't... sell these....Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Pass amps give you that cross over of tubes and SS all in one package. All the tube goodness, with the heft and precision of SS as well as perfectly conveying the recording space and subtleties of a recording."Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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Joey - those look awesome. Give them some time to settle in and your ears to adjust to the new sound.
....and if you decide they aren't what you thought give me a shout. I would like to give them a run in my system.
Thanks buddy...
I can't even get myself to part with the 211FE... I'm like a hoarder. They all sound good.
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R