Finally Experienced Multi-Channel SACD
skrol
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Since I didn't have the capability to do otherwise, I only listened to my SADC's in Stereo. Recently I configured a rather humble HT system comprised of a Denon AVR-888, Marantz UD-5004, Polk RTA-11TL as mains, CS250s center, S4 surrounds and a PSW-10 sub-par sub. The CS250s actually blends fairly well with the RTA-11TL (RDO-198). The S4 uses nearly the same tweeter as the CS250s.
I spun Nora Jones "Come Away With Me" and Pink Floyd DSOTM, in multi-SACD and was blown away. Often surround sounds like they are trying too hard to show off the surround. This was very natural and seamless. I am really fighting the urge to stay out of the HT rabbit hole but it does make me curious how much better it could be. The sub has got to go though.
I spun Nora Jones "Come Away With Me" and Pink Floyd DSOTM, in multi-SACD and was blown away. Often surround sounds like they are trying too hard to show off the surround. This was very natural and seamless. I am really fighting the urge to stay out of the HT rabbit hole but it does make me curious how much better it could be. The sub has got to go though.
Stan
Main 2ch:
Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.
HT:
Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60
Other stuff:
Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
Main 2ch:
Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.
HT:
Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60
Other stuff:
Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
Comments
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I love 5.1 for video games and movies but, for me, 2 channel is where it's at for music. DSOTM 5.1 really is fantastic but I think fantastic 5.1 music is few and far between.
Edit: I guess technically in my case I should have called it 5.0afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
Nice one Stan!
A couple of Elton's 5.1 SACD are pretty cool and "Wish you were here" but I agree Nightfall that I mostly love the 2channel SACD's but its nice in 5.1 now & Then.2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge
HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD -
I really enjoy multi channel audio whether it be dvd-video, dvd-audio, blu ray, or SACD. I don't purchase expensive out of print stuff and I always thoroughly review the discs I do choose to buy. I have about 25 or so and I don't see myself getting many anymore. A good sub makes quite a difference.
My next project will be room treatment.KEF Q50 mains, M&K center, Boston Acoustics surround, Marantz SR6007 pre, Emotiva UPA-700, Pioneer DV-46AV, Samsung BD-j7500, Sunfire HRS12 subwoofer -
I tend to be a 2-ch purist. My Volvo has Dolby ProLogic II but I have it disabled and run mainly the front door speakers. Multi-SACD may just be the novelty of it all but for now it is pretty cool.Stan
Main 2ch:
Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.
HT:
Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60
Other stuff:
Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601 -
I like'em all depending on the artist, genre. I had all these speakers that I love and had to do something w/ them!
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I can dig multi channel, but in short bursts. After a while it starts sounding more like surround sound than good 2 channel.
Glad your digging it though, some music can sound exceptional in multi channel. Rock on.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I love the multi-channel options. I wish there were more of them. My system is dual purpose as it is, so I don't feel that i've spent money "elsewhere" to accommodate the sacd option, it's just built in to what I wanted anyways.
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Listening to Quadrophenia on Blu-ray right now. Pretty awesome.
Just got it and Sailing In The Seas Of Cheese by Primus.
Both have multichannel options.
Also picked up The Cure's Trilogy Blu-ray. A live concert from 2002 where they played pornography, disintegration, and bloodflowers in their entirety.
Should be cool.KEF Q50 mains, M&K center, Boston Acoustics surround, Marantz SR6007 pre, Emotiva UPA-700, Pioneer DV-46AV, Samsung BD-j7500, Sunfire HRS12 subwoofer -
This is where I draw the line.
I think Quadrophenia should only be played on a two channel stereo
setup.whgarrett1394 wrote: »Listening to Quadrophenia on Blu-ray right now. Pretty awesome.
Just got it and Sailing In The Seas Of Cheese by Primus.
Both have multichannel options.
Also picked up The Cure's Trilogy Blu-ray. A live concert from 2002 where they played pornography, disintegration, and bloodflowers in their entirety.
Should be cool.
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Certain discs are really fun. Jackson browne's running on empty in surround is really cool. On the acoustic tracks u really feel like u are sitting in the middle of the hotel room surrounded by the band. I can't imagine any 2 channel setup doing that, BUT I haven't heard a truly high end setup. Also blue man group is really fun, a bit of a novelty but fun nonetheless. Not the same in 2 channel.
Now would i set up surround just for music? No way. First as mentioned they r rare and expensive. And I Agree with grimace, I have The dual purpose rigs for TV, movies, and music, so it's fun to get some multi channel music in the mix as well.Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
It is my understanding that Quadrophenia was initially recorded with a quad release in mind. It sounds pretty awesome in MC 5.1 24bit @ 96khz. The copy came with a 24bit 96khz version of the 1973 stereo mix too. Haven't listened to it yet though.KEF Q50 mains, M&K center, Boston Acoustics surround, Marantz SR6007 pre, Emotiva UPA-700, Pioneer DV-46AV, Samsung BD-j7500, Sunfire HRS12 subwoofer
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When you own a surround sound system that is matched all the way around, it's one hell of an experience when listening to multichannel music.
I've been listening to SACD and DVD AUDIO since day 1 and I don't prefer one way over another due to configuration preferences. I like to listen to whatever was recorded the way it was recorded and go with it. Thats why I think having a musical surround system is key.Dan
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