no sticky dope on the older drivers

I did do a search 1st but really no answer to this. Mark Hardy alluded to that the much older Polks did not use sticky dope on their speakers. My '78 M7s have no such dope w/ the exception of the new one I got from Polk. The question is does one dope these older speakers or leave well enough alone. I used to be a modeler and built balsa wood planes w/ tissue paper wings and other parts and used what was then called well, clear modeler's dope which stiffened the paper and then allowed you to paint the the plane. Would this work or just not worth the effort. OH, that stuff got you wasted if not used in a well ventilated room.. Lost some brain cells along the way because I built hundreds of models.
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,638
    Id leave it be. If it eats at ya-replace the other with a new one also & then they will match.... I would be more worried about ' what adding to the original driver might effect its purpose. Put the grills on & if they sound correct-call it a day & enjoy them
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  • cortico
    cortico Posts: 587
    edited August 2015
    I replaced the the woofers on my speakers, I find the sticky dope on new drivers pretty anoing. It collects dust and particles that are impossible to clean... I am thinking in finding a good vintage pair and replace it back.
    Post edited by cortico on
  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,638
    I hate the fact its harder to light it up when its sticky :smile: smile:
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    edited August 2015
    cortico wrote: »
    I replaced the the woofers on my speakers, I find the sticky dope on new drivers pretty anoing. It collects dust and particles that are impossible to clean... I am thinking in finding a good vintage pair and replace it back.

    The replacement drivers I've ordered from Polk, do not have the tacky surface. The coating they applied was textured and dry to the touch.
    The older drivers are easily cleaned with Windex. If done properly, with a lint-free micro-fiber cloth, they come out perfect.
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  • Schurkey
    Schurkey Posts: 2,101
    used what was then called well, clear modeler's dope which stiffened the paper and then allowed you to paint the the plane. Would this work or just not worth the effort. OH, that stuff got you wasted if not used in a well ventilated room.. Lost some brain cells along the way because I built hundreds of models.
    Thus the phrase in our society--going out of style about the time that mass interest in building model planes did--of "dope fiends".
  • cortico
    cortico Posts: 587
    cortico wrote: »
    I replaced the the woofers on my speakers, I find the sticky dope on new drivers pretty anoing. It collects dust and particles that are impossible to clean... I am thinking in finding a good vintage pair and replace it back.

    The replacement drivers I've ordered from Polk, do not have the tacky surface. The coating they applied was textured and dry to the touch.
    The older drivers are easily cleaned with Windex. If done properly, with a lint-free micro-fiber cloth, they come out perfect.

    Interesting, I got the my Polk replacement drivers from Midwest speakers and that batch is super tacky, it almost looks that is not cured. Also gets finger print marker when touched... I am very unhappy with the drivers.
  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    cortico wrote: »
    cortico wrote: »
    I replaced the the woofers on my speakers, I find the sticky dope on new drivers pretty anoing. It collects dust and particles that are impossible to clean... I am thinking in finding a good vintage pair and replace it back.

    The replacement drivers I've ordered from Polk, do not have the tacky surface. The coating they applied was textured and dry to the touch.
    The older drivers are easily cleaned with Windex. If done properly, with a lint-free micro-fiber cloth, they come out perfect.

    Interesting, I got the my Polk replacement drivers from Midwest speakers and that batch is super tacky, it almost looks that is not cured. Also gets finger print marker when touched... I am very unhappy with the drivers.
    The originals are like that, not the new replacements from Polk.
    Did you really pay $60.00 for them?
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    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    The coating on the mid/late 1970s Polk woofers is nothing like the Allison woofers of the 1970s in terms of stickiness & general tediousness to deal with (FWIW) :- )

    Any of you who've rehabbed early Allison loudspeakers knows whereof I speak.
  • cortico
    cortico Posts: 587
    edited August 2015
    cortico wrote: »
    cortico wrote: »
    I replaced the the woofers on my speakers, I find the sticky dope on new drivers pretty anoing. It collects dust and particles that are impossible to clean... I am thinking in finding a good vintage pair and replace it back.

    The replacement drivers I've ordered from Polk, do not have the tacky surface. The coating they applied was textured and dry to the touch.
    The older drivers are easily cleaned with Windex. If done properly, with a lint-free micro-fiber cloth, they come out perfect.

    Interesting, I got the my Polk replacement drivers from Midwest speakers and that batch is super tacky, it almost looks that is not cured. Also gets finger print marker when touched... I am very unhappy with the drivers.
    The originals are like that, not the new replacements from Polk.
    Did you really pay $60.00 for them?

    It was a bit less, I will take a few pictures when I have a chance. The drivers have a stoker with Polk logo, I believe the assembly year is 2013.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,552
    It collects dust and particles that are impossible to clean

    Are you using the grill covers?
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  • cortico
    cortico Posts: 587
    edited August 2015
    This is what I'm talking about:

    http://youtu.be/dirmKVI7PBs

    This little particles won't come off:
    6oqj026squyd.jpg
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,552
    It looks like there's something on the surround. Is it sticky as well?

    Why didn't you buy the drivers from Polk?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    F1nut wrote: »
    It looks like there's something on the surround. Is it sticky as well?

    Why didn't you buy the drivers from Polk?
    It looks like Midwest sprayed something on them, even the surrounds.
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    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
    Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer

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  • cortico
    cortico Posts: 587
    edited August 2015
    I should have got them from polk, but I wanted to use a paypal promotion i had. I have fixed the video link. The surrounds are not sticky, its just the cone.

    Sorry leftwinger57, for thanking over your thread.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    No coating on the rubber surrounds of the 7As here (FWIW).
    11208642076_3f7f8db8b1_b.jpgPolkmonitor7Asn4900 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
    PS the grey cast that the surrounds seem to exhibit in the photo aren't (at least entirely) a photographic artifact; they've always looked like that -- but they feel like rubber (no coating nor residue obvious to the touch).
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    Leave the grill covers on and they won't get dusty.

    When I first came on this board there was a discussion about this, so I got worried and took off the covers to clean them. Despite being 14 years old at the time, they were as clean as could be. That is why the grill covers stay in place. :)
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