Rogue RP-5 Review
gce
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When I opened the door for the FedEx guy I thought he had delivered the wrong package. I didn't think the box would be so big.
Very well packed. What am I going to do with all these peanuts? LOL
Even the box the RP-5 was in was big. Big enough that I'm thinking they could have just shipped it that way.
No assembly required. lol
and now on to the eye candy.
I'm still configuring stuff but once I got it hooked up I put on Diana Krall "Live In Paris" 45rpm LP. Yes Skip my jaw dropped to the floor. Did I know what I was missing...NO! I'm hearing details I've not heard before. The piano notes are so precise and clear. I can even hear her hitting the keys when she strikes a note. When the bass comes in its not boomy like it was at times before. It's tight and precise. I guess that's the biggest thing I'm hearing is that everything is so precise and life like. Like you're at the concert and it seems to fill the room more then before.
Anyway I'm going to do some fine tuning on my setup and then sit down and play a lot of different music to get a good feel for this and check back for more comments.
Very well packed. What am I going to do with all these peanuts? LOL
Even the box the RP-5 was in was big. Big enough that I'm thinking they could have just shipped it that way.
No assembly required. lol
and now on to the eye candy.
I'm still configuring stuff but once I got it hooked up I put on Diana Krall "Live In Paris" 45rpm LP. Yes Skip my jaw dropped to the floor. Did I know what I was missing...NO! I'm hearing details I've not heard before. The piano notes are so precise and clear. I can even hear her hitting the keys when she strikes a note. When the bass comes in its not boomy like it was at times before. It's tight and precise. I guess that's the biggest thing I'm hearing is that everything is so precise and life like. Like you're at the concert and it seems to fill the room more then before.
Anyway I'm going to do some fine tuning on my setup and then sit down and play a lot of different music to get a good feel for this and check back for more comments.
Anaheim Hills CA,
HT 5.1: Anthem MRX 720 / BDP-Denon DBT1713UD / Polkaudio LSiM703 / W4S mAmp's / Polkaudio LSiM706c / Polkaudio LSiM702F/X's / SVS PC12-NSD / Panasonic TC P55VT30
2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703
HT 5.1: Anthem MRX 720 / BDP-Denon DBT1713UD / Polkaudio LSiM703 / W4S mAmp's / Polkaudio LSiM706c / Polkaudio LSiM702F/X's / SVS PC12-NSD / Panasonic TC P55VT30
2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703
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Congrats man... just wait until the tube rolling bug bites you.
I invite you up any time to compare your Rogue to the Pass Labs. I think it would be a fun comparison. we can toss some steaks on the grill and listen to some tunes...The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Steaks ??
How come I only get offered hotdogs ?
Sounds like the Rogue is a hit for ya, enjoy rumbling through every cd you own now. Congrats man, enjoy.HT SYSTEM-
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Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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Nice! Love the Rouge look in black. Congrats! I wish you great listening.Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
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I'm happy to hear it man. Ignorance is bliss, and now that you've eliminated the ignorance, you're going to have to fight that hand from reaching for that back pocket more than ever.
That's a mighty fine looking piece and very well made inside. Congrats man.
This... I dropped 4 grand on Pass gear in a very short period of time.
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Very nice looking unit....glad to hear you are liking it so far. So, for the record...where you not aware of this unit until I linked it in your other thread? If so, that's pretty freeking cool! Would love to listen to it myself.
Maybe if the new stuff takes off more will be selling there old stuff? A chance for me to jump on the Rogue bandwagon. LOL! Good things do come it time.
Enjoy it and keep us posted....
2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2 -
Personally, I think the OP is crazy....he needs to send that pre to me for confirmation.
HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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Beautiful piece! I'd love to get my ears on one sometime, are you using the onboard phono section?
I've read where Rogue will be coming out with an RP-3 one day also. Enjoy!
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Very sweet looking... would love to hear.My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |
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Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |
Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |
Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |
Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's
Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's | -
Congrats! Very envious here. Enjoy!b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet -
Almost felt like I was there
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This thing is a keeper. Even at lower volumes it sounds good. I'm not using the inboard phono preamp. The inboard is a SS pre so I decided to use my Pro-ject tube box DS. I'll try the inboard but first I'm going to upgrade my cartridge to a MC down the road.
I put on some Dave Burbeck Time Out 45rpm and it's just at a different level. When the bass drums hits in Time Out the slam just makes you take a second look. Listening to The Doors now and not at a high level. still come through very clean and detailed.
Now I'll I need is the wife to go on an errand so I can crank it up!
Anaheim Hills CA,
HT 5.1: Anthem MRX 720 / BDP-Denon DBT1713UD / Polkaudio LSiM703 / W4S mAmp's / Polkaudio LSiM706c / Polkaudio LSiM702F/X's / SVS PC12-NSD / Panasonic TC P55VT30
2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703 -
Awesome!!! Yeah the bass slam in "Time out" felt to me like his foot was going to go thru my speakers so I know what your talking about there
Enjoy, Your set up is looking excellent!
2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge
HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD -
It looks great in the rack, congrats gce, sounds like you got a keeper!
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I'd bet a chicken sandwich that the internal phono beats the Tube Box DS. Might wanna try a DL103r cartridge. Lively, balanced, great value.b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet -
Now that is one sexy rack of gear...no pun intended.2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2
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This thing is a keeper. Even at lower volumes it sounds good. I'm not using the inboard phono preamp. The inboard is a SS pre so I decided to use my Pro-ject tube box DS. I'll try the inboard but first I'm going to upgrade my cartridge to a MC down the road.
I put on some Dave Burbeck Time Out 45rpm and it's just at a different level. When the bass drums hits in Time Out the slam just makes you take a second look. Listening to The Doors now and not at a high level. still come through very clean and detailed.
Now I'll I need is the wife to go on an errand so I can crank it up!
Thanks for reminding me about this album. It is an amazing recording, and I am spinning it right now. I can almost feel the contact high coming on listening to it.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |
ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4
Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |
Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |
Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |
Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's
Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's | -
nooshinjohn wrote: »Thanks for reminding me about this album. It is an amazing recording, and I am spinning it right now. I can almost feel the contact high coming on listening to it.
When I got to the last side "The End" I cranked it up a bit. It is an amazing recording.
Anaheim Hills CA,
HT 5.1: Anthem MRX 720 / BDP-Denon DBT1713UD / Polkaudio LSiM703 / W4S mAmp's / Polkaudio LSiM706c / Polkaudio LSiM702F/X's / SVS PC12-NSD / Panasonic TC P55VT30
2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703 -
I moved on to "The Soft Parade"....The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Awesome looking gear in the rack. Nice clean look.2 ChannelTurntable - VPI Classic 2/Ortofon 2M BlueAmplification - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II, Parks Audio Budgie PhonoSpeakers - GoldenEar Triton 17.2 Home TheaterDenon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Klipsch RP-280F's, Klipsch RP-450C, Polk FXi3's, Polk RC60i; Dual SVS PB 2000's; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"Man CaveTurntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado GoldAmplification - Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 DeluxeCD: Cambridge AudioSpeakers - Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary; LSiM 703; SDA 2A
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I gotta pass this on. I was having a problem with my new Rogue. For some reason it was not turning on and I had to unplug it to get it to reset and turn on. Well I called Rogue and talked to Bill and Mark and they could not get this working right. They got ahold of Acoustic Sounds who I bought it from and I got a call from them.
Long story short is that they all (Rogue, Acoustic Sounds) bent over backwards and I got a new unit in less then a week. Customer service from both is far above and beyond anyone I have ever dealt with.
The only bad thing is that I have to start the break-in all over again.
Anaheim Hills CA,
HT 5.1: Anthem MRX 720 / BDP-Denon DBT1713UD / Polkaudio LSiM703 / W4S mAmp's / Polkaudio LSiM706c / Polkaudio LSiM702F/X's / SVS PC12-NSD / Panasonic TC P55VT30
2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703 -
Well, sometimes that's why you buy new and you have that Warranty in your hip pocket.
Good on Rogue and your Dealer, and good on you for having the patience to see it through. -
Patience was on my side because I didn't have it the week before and getting everything right was important to me.
This morning I'm trying out the Tube based headphone amp. I have to say the sound coming from my AH-D5000's has never sounded this good before. Very rich and detailed. Reminds me of when I was a rebellious kid listening to this Album at a friends house with his Dad's headphones late into the night.
My headphones have been sitting to long but will be used much more now that I have this Preamp.
Anaheim Hills CA,
HT 5.1: Anthem MRX 720 / BDP-Denon DBT1713UD / Polkaudio LSiM703 / W4S mAmp's / Polkaudio LSiM706c / Polkaudio LSiM702F/X's / SVS PC12-NSD / Panasonic TC P55VT30
2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703 -
Glad the headphone section is sounding good, I would be curious as to how the built-in phono section performs. Enjoy!
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I lighten up my system this morning by taking my Pro-Ject Tube Box DS out of the rig and hooking my TT into the Rogue. Set it up for my Ortofon MC. The only setting I wasn't sure of was the capacitance setting. You can set it to zero or 150pF, I set it to 150pF. Spun some Vinyl and I have to say this sounds cleaner, more detailed and I'm hearing a little more bass with the Rogue phono pre. Maybe the changes I'm hearing are because I've gone from a tube phone pre to a SS that's in the Rogue. I don't know but I'm liking it so far. More detailed I guess.
So I can live with this and start looking into tube rolling the Rogue. Not sure what tubes I should try. It has Four 12AU7/ECC82 tubes stock. What would you guys suggest I try?Anaheim Hills CA,
HT 5.1: Anthem MRX 720 / BDP-Denon DBT1713UD / Polkaudio LSiM703 / W4S mAmp's / Polkaudio LSiM706c / Polkaudio LSiM702F/X's / SVS PC12-NSD / Panasonic TC P55VT30
2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703 -
On the cheap, Tung Sol 12AU7 with horse shoe getters are the $hit. The BlackGlass TungSol AU7s are a smidge better though but cost more.Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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great tubes.
http://www.upscaleaudio.com/cifte-12au7/
http://www.upscaleaudio.com/radiotechnique-12au7-6189/
http://www.upscaleaudio.com/cbs-12au7/
http://www.upscaleaudio.com/tungsram-ecc82-12au7/Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
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In my Rogue gear I have found the an RCA Black Plate Command 5814 (variant of the 12AU7) are exceptional
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-RCA-Command-5814A-12AU7-sub-NOS-NIB-Black-Plate-Vacuum-Tubes-Same-Dates-/321977459210?hash=item4af75a220a:g:nk4AAOSwSdZWcb2t
I just received a pair of Gold Lion 12AU7's and a pair of 12AX7's and I have to say for a New Production tube, they sound VERY good from top to bottom. Absolutely no tube glare, very smooth, and priced right.
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Thanks for the recommendations guys. Now I have a starting point for my research. I do have a matching pair of Mullard NOS ECC83 / 12AX7 I could try with some others.Anaheim Hills CA,
HT 5.1: Anthem MRX 720 / BDP-Denon DBT1713UD / Polkaudio LSiM703 / W4S mAmp's / Polkaudio LSiM706c / Polkaudio LSiM702F/X's / SVS PC12-NSD / Panasonic TC P55VT30
2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703 -
CBS Hytron 5814s are another great 12AU7 variant as are Telefunken smooth plates.
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