Would you buy a speaker with a small flaw?

Joey_V
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I have seen what could be perhaps my dream speakers. A pair of graphite SF Stradivari have finally found its way on audiogon. The chances of a graphite Strad are near zero as I have been spying the site for a year and this is the first.

It has a small ding to the rear top, very small he says.... would it be enough to sway you against a reference level, end of the line speaker??

Link:
Strads in Graphite

Man.. so sick.
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    I would not let that deter me. It looks pretty trivial and in my experience dings like that appear worse through the camera lens. Regardless, I bet an expert could touch that up so that it would be barely noticeable, if it means that much.
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited April 2015
    Wow, is it that serious? Would you pay $10k-$15k more for new..or to have them shipped back and repaired? I'm sure a local wood craftsman could fill it in to make it less noticeable for hundreds or less. $45k msrp speakers!!!!!

    Let's keep perspective.....are you a collector or a user/listener?

    Some of the most beautiful instruments used to make the most beautiful music that we all love are not perfect in appearance. If one wants instruments or speakers that are perfect in appearance .....then buy them new and leave them in the package unused! Choices?

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    If the price is right a small cosmetic flaw isn't a deal breaker. In fact, it probably helps lower the price.
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  • pumpkinman
    pumpkinman Posts: 9,898
    If this is your dream speaker go for it. Most furniture stores have a guy who can make small imperfections disappear. There's a local man here who is a marvel.

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  • [Deleted User]
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    You heal fast my friend! Haha

    It those were my end of game speakers and somehow convinced myself that it were true. I would fly out there to see it in person. Some things require in person interactions and this is one of them.

    You can do it!

    Halen
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,654
    Joey, for that deep of a discount, I would be all over them if it was me (and they were Magicos).

    It isn't like it is a gouge on the face of a driver or the front baffle that you will see as you sit there and listen.

    But then, I am not *that* picky as I typically am willing to overlook cosmetic damage that does not effect the performance.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,903
    edited April 2015
    now, is the rest of your equipment up to the task?
    i would go straight for vitus.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,583
    Ok can someone ban Marvin from participating in this thread from now on???
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,583
    I'm in talks with him. I think if the price is right and the shipping via freight is to my liking, I will just have to run this by the wife when she's not in a mean mood (which is almost never)...

    ... Then 802 diamonds and Strads in the hooooouze!!
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  • WagnerRC
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    Hey it's only money. You can always make more iss my motto.
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,779
    marvda1 wrote: »
    now, is the rest of your equipment up to the task?
    i would go straight for vitus.
    http://app.audiogon.com/listings/solid-state-vitus-audio-sm-102-signature-monaural-amplifier-2015-04-14-amplifiers-011547

    Holy crap that's more than my 1st house...

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,394
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Ok can someone ban Marvin from participating in this thread from now on???

    I will try to ban him this Firday and Saturday.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,583
    WagnerRC wrote: »
    Hey it's only money. You can always make more iss my motto.

    baller....
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  • Joey_V
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    halenhoang wrote: »
    You heal fast my friend! Haha

    It those were my end of game speakers and somehow convinced myself that it were true. I would fly out there to see it in person. Some things require in person interactions and this is one of them.

    You can do it!

    Halen

    Halen,

    My healing abilities have not yet healed. Just a partial heal...
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  • [Deleted User]
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    Joey_V wrote: »
    halenhoang wrote: »
    You heal fast my friend! Haha

    It those were my end of game speakers and somehow convinced myself that it were true. I would fly out there to see it in person. Some things require in person interactions and this is one of them.

    You can do it!

    Halen

    Halen,

    My healing abilities have not yet healed. Just a partial heal...

    Oh yes, you still have amps and DAC's to consider! Lol.

    Halen

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  • teekay0007
    teekay0007 Posts: 2,289
    You know that ol' saying, "Don't be dickin' around with a wrench near your speakers...you might put an ever so slight ding in the way back tops of them!"? Well, I paid no nevermind to it and this is what happened to them. Even though they were just my garage speakers, I could no longer even look at them. Made me sick! I ended up giving them - he had to pay shipping - to a pal in Milwaukee a while back. I hope he gives you a nice price, Joey, considering what they cost him! B)
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    Joey_V wrote: »
    I'm in talks with him. I think if the price is right and the shipping via freight is to my liking, I will just have to run this by the wife when she's not in a mean mood (which is almost never)...

    ... Then 802 diamonds and Strads in the hooooouze!!

    Ha ha....run it by the wife eh? Geez, I'm still hiding my $1600 Martin Logans from my wife....ha ha :^ (

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  • MrBuhl
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    IF i had the scrap, I wouldn't hesitate, but I've always been a cheapskate "bargain" hunter I guess. A small imperfection that equates to big savings in $$ and no change to sound is a winner in my book!
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2015
    And I'm only paying for my daughter's room and board next year-well, maybe a bit more than that. lol

    At that price what you save you can use for a year or so of sessions with your favorite Freudian to help you get over that ANAL complex! lol

    All kidding aside. If you have the cash, just DO IT!
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,583
    Gonna talk to guy over the phone today. How to break this to the wife...
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    edited April 2015
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Gonna talk to guy over the phone today. How to break this to the wife...

    Tell her what you saved, not what you spent. B)

    My wife does that to me......I tell her to buy enough to save a million dollars and give it to me. >:)
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,583
    edited April 2015
    She knows the bank account front and back. I used to have a stash in the safety but I don't know how much I have left there.

    18k is what I want. He wants 19k. I called him but no answer so maybe later.

    I told the wife about it. She said yes only if I sell the 802 but I want to keep it. So she knew how to hit me where it hurts.

    She wants 9k in addition to go to her, she has some plans if I buy the strads.

    Oh my... Now I'm hesitant.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,583
    edited April 2015
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    In the meantime... My baby and I enjoy the PM1...

    Listening to Furious 7 soundtrack.

    RIP Paul Walker.
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    Awesome, enjoy. Tomorrow he will be grown.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,583
    DSkip wrote: »
    vmaxer wrote: »
    Awesome, enjoy. Tomorrow he will be grown.

    Joey will never be grown. Just bigger and blingier. :o

    Hahaha...skip knows me too well...
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  • Joey_V
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    Are my pics still sideways??
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Are my pics still sideways??

    Upside down, sideways and reversed.
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    Joey_V wrote: »
    ....I told the wife about it. She said yes only if I sell the 802 but I want to keep it.
    I thought the 802's were prelude to the end game 800's or the Strads? Man sell those 802's and go get your Strads. You've been talking about those....

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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,654
    WLDock wrote: »
    I thought the 802's were prelude to the end game 800's or the Strads? Man sell those 802's and go get your Strads. You've been talking about those....

    QFT!!! Do it Joey. Let me live vicariously through your spending! (I tried spending all of PFB's money but he stopped sending it to me...guess he got tired of my starving Nigerian Prince routine)

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,583
    WLDock wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    ....I told the wife about it. She said yes only if I sell the 802 but I want to keep it.
    I thought the 802's were prelude to the end game 800's or the Strads? Man sell those 802's and go get your Strads. You've been talking about those....

    Yeah.. but I can't stop but think I might regret the sale of the 802...

    Seems like me and the guy are stalemate at 18500
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