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hejiraent
hejiraent Posts: 126
edited March 2004 in Electronics
I am still afraid of buying a SACD player. I am totally sold on the sound, but, I am afraid of buying the next "BETA Videotape" Is there any indication that Sony is planning to "share" or "sell" the technology or rights? It really is a jaw droppingly good invention!
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited February 2004
    SACD is here to stay..I don't think you should be concerned with the fate of SACD. As a matter of fact, there are more reissue of album on hybrid SACD. The fate of DVD-Audio is the one that I think is in jeopardy, but that is just my personal opinion, due to the limited availability of software. If you go with a universal player, such as the Pioneer DV563-SA (Best Buy, $139), you should be fine.
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • therockman
    therockman Posts: 349
    edited March 2004
    I would like to know what you mean by "share or sell" the technology. Many manufacturers are making the equipment to play SACDs on, including Marantz, Denon, Pioneer, Sharp and many audiophile brands. This technology is out there for all manufacturers to license. As far as the software, almost every record company is on the bandwagon, and there are new SACD titles being announced every day. I really think that it is a safe bet to jump into SACD, and the 5.1 surround sound can't be beat.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2004
    He may mean that Sony really has kept a stranglehold on release rights for new SACD's. I also think they are here to stay, but they need to release some more mainstream titles. I am picking up a Denon, in addition to the SACD I run now, simply because there are more titles for me in that genre. I am moving the SACD into 2CH duty.

    The other manufacturers made the right decision going universal, it's a win-win situation for the consumers of either format. Universal is the way to go IMO.

    It really came to a head, when I saw the Star Trek: Nemesis soundtrack on SACD....are you F'N kidding me???!!! Ridiculous.
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by dorokusai


    The other manufacturers made the right decision going universal, it's a win-win situation for the consumers of either format. Universal is the way to go IMO.


    I agree with this and is why I went Universal. The dichotomy for me though is that in my quest for seperates the Universal is a piece of gear thats far from a seperate.

    Oh well looks like I'll have to suffer with the Denon 2900 for a long time;)

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  • Darkaine
    Darkaine Posts: 9
    edited March 2004
    while i do hope that both sacd and dvd audio is here to stay, i'm not sure how you can say that dvd audio is in trouble? Dvd audio has far more record labels to work with than sacd does right now, as well as the fact that it will play dolby digital music in any player, but not high resolution audio. Both formats are great and i own both types of discs and it's good to see the number of universal players coming out, but with SACD all i keep thinking about is what happened to mini disc because sony didn't allow for other labels to use it. Just my 2 cents.
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  • therockman
    therockman Posts: 349
    edited March 2004
    I have a great science fiction disc on SACD, it is called SCI FI IN HIGH FI, (audio Fidelity AFZ 012). This disc contains a lot of different songs from different movies, including STAR WARS, 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, BUCKAROO BANZAI AND MANY MORE. It is great, a full orchstra doing some great science fiction music.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,757
    edited March 2004
    If DVD-A has more record labels to work with then why are there only 800 or so releases in that format vs 1900 SACD's? The fact is that almost every record label has SACD releases, even Universal which backed DVD-A from the beginning has come over to the SACD camp. I don't know where you got the idea that Sony isn't letting other labels use SACD, but it's not true. On the other hand it seems that Sony has started to dabble in DVD-A, but on a very limited basis. DVD-A has problems with dual layered discs while SACD hybrids will play in any CD player. That and the fact that while DVD-A has the potential to do 24/192 not many of them actually do. The bottom line is that SACD has been accepted by the audiophile crowd and DVD-A has not. Look at how many dedicated high-end SACD players are on the market vs DVD-A players, that should spell it out pretty easily for you.
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  • hejiraent
    hejiraent Posts: 126
    edited March 2004
    I heard my first and only SACD back in 2000. I was blown away by the fullness of the sound. The guy that auditioned it for me AFOAF who is the first on the block to get EVERYTHING! told me (BACK IN 2000 PLEASE REMEMBER) that Sony was playing hardball with the rest of the A/V manufacturers like they did with the Beta max and advised me to hold off buying one until they either got over themselves or everyone else developed something similar... ala VHS. I never considered DVD-A similar to the sound of the SACD so I never gave it another thought. Now that I have brought this thread up, I see that SACD is here to stay. Thanks for all your opinions!
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by hejiraent
    AFOAF

    WTF is that?

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  • Darkaine
    Darkaine Posts: 9
    edited March 2004
    i stand corrected, i had orginally heard that sony was being very protective of the format.
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  • therockman
    therockman Posts: 349
    edited March 2004
    Right now, March 2004, there are over 2950 titles out on SACD, AFOAF!!!
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by therockman
    Right now, March 2004, there are over 2950 titles out on SACD, AFOAF!!!

    Yea, and 75% of them suck.
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited March 2004
    The titles ? or the quality ?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2004
    It's just title availability for me, the SQ is excellent.
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  • therockman
    therockman Posts: 349
    edited March 2004
    Actually I own a little over 100 titles on SACD and I have yet to come across a turkey. As far as selection, it is great, and getting better every day, AFOAK!!!
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2004
    lets face it.. SACD has more and better titles out than DVD-a does currently. DVD-a will prob never catch up either.

    I think both camps did a horrible job of promoting their hi res formats. CC has both SACD and DVD-a set ups in their stores here.. both are always turned off when i got shopping there.

    I went with DVD-a a few years back. I'm now thinking of getting a universal player so I can dabble in SACD. For the better titles out there. TO be honest i'm getting more into 2 channel audio now that i thought i ever would. I may still ditch the hi res discs all togehter and move on instead.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2004
    That's what angers me the most, is the poor store support of the formats. You mention SACD and they look ay you like you just arrived from Mars. Poor selection at B&M's. It all depends on your tastes as far as music selection.

    Online is the only avenue for real support.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by danger boy
    TO be honest i'm getting more into 2 channel audio now that i thought i ever would. I may still ditch the hi res discs all togehter and move on instead.

    I listen to 2 channel SACD 99% of the time.
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  • hejiraent
    hejiraent Posts: 126
    edited March 2004
    AFOAF= A Friend Of A Friend.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,757
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by therockman
    Right now, March 2004, there are over 2950 titles out on SACD, AFOAF!!!

    Damn, I'm missing 1050 titles.........LOL.

    I got my info from http://www.sa-cd.net/ Where did you get yours?
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  • therockman
    therockman Posts: 349
    edited March 2004
    Your right, that site is where I get my number from as well, although I seemed to have missed the number by about 1,000, (sorry).
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by hejiraent
    AFOAF= A Friend Of A Friend.

    ok

    ~12 hours...?...

    waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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  • Awais yaqub
    Awais yaqub Posts: 26
    edited March 2004
    in pakistan people know about SACD AND OWN SOME OF ELIGeNT theater system but no one knows about DVD-A i htink sony will into more titles beside DVD-A is old thing and have more titles and SACD is newest technology
    Pakistani
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  • hejiraent
    hejiraent Posts: 126
    edited March 2004
    awais, Is Polk a big name where you are from?
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2004
    Polk only has four letters. Now Islamabad is a big name with eight letters.

    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
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  • POLKOHOLIC
    POLKOHOLIC Posts: 407
    edited March 2004
    Im In Pakistan Too. Hey Awais where in PK are you? No POLK is not a BIG NAME here. The only Brands People Recognize here are Sony, LG, JBL, and Toshiba. They are all Uninformed A$$HOLES. Im originally form NY. ISLAMABAD---I Might Be Wrong George But I See 9 Letters.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2004
    There was a time shift between my eyes and the word the first time I typed it out. Nine it is. Leave it alone for awhile a maybe it'll get bigger! And get home safe.

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  • Awais yaqub
    Awais yaqub Posts: 26
    edited March 2004
    hay man i am also in islamabad .nop only me and my 1 freind knows about polk over here. SONY is good there new home theater really kills i have never seen other home theater dream is too c the POLKS in performance
    Pakistani
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  • POLKOHOLIC
    POLKOHOLIC Posts: 407
    edited March 2004
    Im in Karachi--I bought over the RTi70's--FXi50's--and a CSi40 from the states. I think i might be the ONLY one with Polks in Pakistan.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by POLKOHOLIC
    Polks in Pakistan.

    Now there is a marketing campaign no other speaker maker has ever used to promote their speakers.

    Polks in Pakistan! :p
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