Neil just dissed vinyl fiends worse than......

vc69

Me either, but hi-res digital has the edge on some material by a wide margin. I like having access to both.

mhardy6647

I'll lay you odds that the current vinyl resurgence is a fad -- with a fairly short shelf life. I am not happy to opine that, but I do expect it to be the case.

gce

mhardy6647 wrote: »

I'll lay you odds that the current vinyl resurgence is a fad -- with a fairly short shelf life. I am not happy to opine that, but I do expect it to be the case.

I think it will be a longer fad then you think. With more and more AVR's having the phono in availably again, new turntables coming out, new cartridge's and phono pre's. There's a lot more to this then just the vinyl. It will take awhile for all this to spin down.

BlueFox

It is a short lived fad that is being driven by youngsters with no previous vinyl experience. After they have ruined a few records, broken a stylus or two, and get tired of the hassle dealing with vinyl, they will say, 'Frack this'.

SCompRacer

cnh wrote: »

More power to you. All I'm saying is that I'm a lazy axx when it comes to vinyl; NOT that it's not worth spinning. I do believe that analog formats have an edge to resolution and detail but as you move to Hi-Res that advantage becomes less and less noticeable.

Not throwing out my vinyl any time soon!

Oh, I don't listen to vinyl all the time. And I fully agree, it does require more effort. That's why I built a DAC that makes standard redbook sound fantastic, I don't need to have hi-res to enjoy digital. But vinyl do get the nod here from myself and friends for best sound quality.

vc69

Vinyl sure has that certain "something". There are times when only a rekkid will do.

mhardy6647

hmm... Is it time for a re-write of the lyrics of the Neil Young verse of "Sweet Home Alabama"?

SCompRacer

Okay, everybody lie down on the floor and keep calm.....

https://youtu.be/YYD9CIWJELc

SCompRacer

A pre current system vinyl fashion statement...bass is not a problem with vinyl or air bearing arm...I've been involved with this fashion statement since 1963. Pop's Silvertone Console.

https://youtu.be/WLaGoC2A2tE

I even make vertical fashion statements...

https://youtu.be/T8OjlcJjSEE

Vinyl overs can fast forward to 1:42....my last part tube system....now all Class A SS.

https://youtu.be/BIJX9TmlaSM

gdb

mhardy6647 wrote: »

hmm... Is it time for a re-write of the lyrics of the Neil Young verse of "Sweet Home Alabama"?

In fact, it's much "adieu" 'bout nothin'.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/flashback-neil-young-covers-sweet-home-alabama-in-1977-20150120

mhardy6647

So speaking of ol' easy-going Mr. Young... y'all saw this, yes?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/24/steve-jobs-f-ck-neil-young.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page

Article about Neil's fellow Zen-master of laid-back-ness, Steve Jobs.

cnh

When they do your Biography, you NEVER win. If there is even ONE guy or gal who just plain hated you, you're screwed. Even the major players, the "beloved" on this site have their detractors and haters. It's a new age of "interconnectedness" and it does NOT favor any "saints"!

I had a colleague in Jersey who teaches religion in a Dept. of Theology, who in his 40s or 50s? became enamored of Freud. He then proceeded to pump out book after book on famous religious figures that concluded that they were ALL some kind of closeted perverts or worse; they flaunted their sexual eccentricities in public. This just goes to show you that no one has an "objective" perception of anyone. Heck, people even DOUBT "themselves" from moment to moment. History is a BiTxH! And people are mostly "unforgiving" and usually self-centered. lol

In the Jobs case or Gates, there is NO need to investigate, anyone who rises to that kind of POWER just has to be a bit questionable as person! lol

When I'm gone I'm going to leave a space under my name on my tombstone for all the haters to put in their two cents; list all my foibles, shortcomings, and worse!

Humans? I am reminded of a line by Mickey Rourke in the film Barfly

Wanda: I can't stand people, I hate them.
Henry: Oh yeah?
Wanda: Do you hate them?
Henry: No, but I seem to feel better when they're not around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rgKAOdPx58

Real pieces of wisdom from Charles Bukowski. That's why we all need a drink now and then as well as some TIME away from everything, including this site!

agfrost

SCompRacer wrote: »

Okay, everybody lie down on the floor and keep calm.....

All aboard, all aboard whoa-oh!

SCompRacer

agfrost wrote: »

All aboard, all aboard whoa-oh!

Wanda Dee!

gdb

Good news for Vin-o-philes !

http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2015/04/17/400364697/solving-the-vinyl-comebacks-big-problem-one-antique-machine-at-a-time?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nprmusic&utm_term=music&utm_content=20150417

gfong

Looks like I have to quote Neil and what he actually said... again...
Here is Neils exact quote...... "And they're only making CD masters in digital, so all the new products that come out on vinyl are actually CDs on vinyl, which is really nothing but a fashion statement."

Where do you read that he says records are a fashion statement... do some of you release the quality of his re-issued LP's. They are works of art, so yea, a southern man does need Neil around...

Christ some of you guys just don't read... worse than a bunch of school girls.. facts gents they do mean something even in the internet age where Wiki is King and fact are thrown to the Wind!

gce

gfong wrote: »

Where do you read that he says records are a fashion statement... do some of you release the quality of his re-issued LP's. They are works of art, so yea, a southern man does need Neil around...

I have his re-issued "Harvest" and "After The Gold Rush". They are the best copy's I have ever heard. Neil knows how to do this $hit!

gce

kevintomb wrote: »

But the "Idea", that somehow No one was able to realize that back in the late 80s, and simply gave up on it, but then it was "Discovered" years later in the mid 2000's or whenever, is in itself, somewhat laughable.

You just don't get it. They didn't simply give up on vinyl because of the sound. They gave up on it because this new little silver disc that could be played in the car, not take up much room, put into a player and be able push play and it would play all the way through and even skip the songs you did want to hear. You could even eat a pizza on it...now that's laughable.

Convenience was the only thing that little silver disc was for and we bought into that it was better then that big black disc and so easy to use. As the years went by we forgot what music could really sound like. Then somebody put one of those BIG black disc's on a turntable thingy and found out what they were missing. Laughable...just laughable and a little sad too!

[Deleted User]

so for those who have gone all digital all the time, how often do you listen to a whole "CD/LP?"

gce

kevintomb wrote: »

rednedtugent wrote: »

so for those who have gone all digital all the time, how often do you listen to a whole "CD/LP?"

Never.

Bingo...It's just sad what CD's did to music. I did the same thing with CD's. Now I put on an album and hear songs I haven't heard in years...great songs that I forgot was on the album.

WilliamM2

I usually listen to albums all the way through, just like I always did. If I have time.

There are occasions where I will change my mind on what I want to listen to in the middle of an album, just like I did with any other format. It's much nicer to just hit a button from anywhere in the house, and not have to go change a CD or LP. I've enjoyed that luxury for 10 years now, no way I'm going back to a regular CD player. I haven't dealt with the pain of vinyl for 30 years.

voltz

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Bingo...It's just sad what CD's did to music. I did the same thing with CD's. Now I put on an album and hear songs I haven't heard in years...great songs that I forgot was on the album.

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Agree, with vinyl I almost always play them all the way through at least the side I started playing. I found myself doing it more & more with CD's too.

Just listened to "Elton Johns *Captain Fantastic & the Brown Dirt Cowboy* SACD all the way thru and taken as a whole it was pretty dang good!

gdb

I generally just listen to one side of a cd. I used to hate it when there was a song that I hated that was smack in the middle of an LP side, fancy cueing/skipping was a pita.

BlueFox

rednedtugent wrote: »

so for those who have gone all digital all the time, how often do you listen to a whole "CD/LP?"

I rarely listened to a whole album when I had a turntable. I was always just playing the songs I like. Of course, I had to rebuy more than one album and/or cartridge from accidentally dropping the tone arm as I was moving it.

Now I just have playlists of my favorite songs that I play on random shuffle. I just love my file player. What a great audio invention.

mhardy6647

I listened to the eponymous debut album by a 1970s midwest group of Yes/prog rock wannabes called Starcastle on the ol' licorice pizza one night last week. It was fun in a decidedly nostalgic way. The album, a 1970s (orange label) Columbia pressing, is kind of tizzy-bright sounding, and the LF isn't impressive on it... but it was still fun to hear. I doubt that anyone's invested the time and effort into remastering & re-releasing material like Starcastle in the digital domain (and, no, I haven't ever bothered to look).

The best reason to keep a viable turntable & ancillaries on line, IMO, is to listen, however occasionally, to ephemera such as the above.

That said, I just noticed that the wonderful East Coast singer-songwriter Aoife O'Donovan (daughter of the host of WGBH-FM Boston's A Celtic Sojurn program, Brian O'Donovan) has a new release coming out soon on... 7 inch vinyl... speaking of ephemera...

http://www.aoifeodonovan.com/

telemike

I don't care. Vinyl is an experience for me. A link to my past. I like the tactile experience. I like the cover art.

[Deleted User]

I only get vinyl for the stories.

gdb

Snap-crackle-pop have never been favorite sounds of mine BUT, as was previously alluded to, huge amounts of recorded music are not now, nor will they ever be released in digital forms. The odd, "labor of love" transcribers excluded. Tapes will always deteriorate to the point that they're unplayable at some point, IMO. Pressings on the other hand, with care, could last almost forever, theoretically. Therefore, I embrace all music reproduction methods. (Not PONO, though ! LOL)